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Statistically Speaking - QP's and PP's

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Your absolutely CORRECT so NO extra  proof  is needed  self-picks work  just ask the  players that have won money  using  them.

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    Quote: Originally posted by visiondude

    all He did was SPEAK IT into existence.

    i have ZERO problem "believing" God can do anything He wants to.

     

    visiondude, I gave it some deep thought and I decided to help you to expedite the end of the religious debate.  That way the thread can get back on track - or as RJ posted, perhaps QPs vs SPs is settled?

    If you believe that God can do anything He wants, then that solves EVERY POSSIBLE QUESTION THERE CAN BE ABOUT RELIGION or anything for that matter.  It's not proof to a lot of people but, hey, you can just keep repeating your answer and that solves it all in your world.  We now know that God must want children dying, or it wouldn't be so.  We now know why there are diseases, starving people and traffic jams. 

    Actually, I am not sure why you carried this thread for 60+ pages (71 pages now)?  I mean you could of just asked God for an answer to the question if QP are better than SP and then related the answer here and it would be proof enough.  Probably the thread would only be a couple pages that way.

    Of course, the question comes into my mind, WHY didn't God end this thread way back there instead of putting you through this ordeal?  Was God testing you, to see if you could "stay the course?"  But then I am reminded that God moves in mysterious ways.  Another great answer to so many questions.

    Anyone debating anything religious, give it up now.  It is futile.   Even Captain Jean-Luc Picard is helpless in this matter.  visiondude has explained how God can do anything he wants.  There is no possible logical, reasonable way to debate that.  That trumps everything and anything you can think of and anything where Google says otherwise.  Give it up people, I beg you...


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      Or just take it behind closed doors like I DID "PM" and BRING the board back too where it was besides  GOD  is too busy to be messing around with the lottery he  has  too direct his people so they can do there thing,and I DO beleive  one of there leaders is a member here  on  lottery post

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        I won't engage in some long drawn out religious argument with you but I have to tell you that sounds like one of the most foolish explanations I ever heard. 

        That's not proof.  All these 6 thousand years (according to you), and that is the best you can come up with?

        I'll even buy 10 QPs and see if God can make all 10 of them winners!  That would be the test.  If that happens, then I'll believe your foolish ideas!

        BTW - quote  (1) born in bethelehem.   not just "bethelehem",  but a specific part of it

        It's Bethlehem - at least show some respect to your religion and beliefs!  Look it up if you can't spell it.

        Never argue with a fool, they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience.

        i don't blame you for dropping out before you get started,  because you can't "debate" against  prerecorded history.

        you,  or anyone else

        the only way you can deal with it,   is to try and "make it go away"

        fact is,  it's not unlike ANY OTHER "prerecorded history"  in history's rear view mirror,  you just don't like it,  so you live in pretend make believe land that it "isn't true"

        there is nothing you can do,  to make the original prophecy,  or the fulfilment thereof "disappear",  because they were both recorded by eyewitnesses

        ***********************************************************************************************I'll "even buy 10 QPs and see if God can make all 10 of them winners!  That would be the test.  If that happens, then I'll believe your foolish ideas!"

        arrogant people thinking they make God do anything,   as if God has to prove Himself to the great "untruecritic"

        get a clue.  buy a clue from someone else if you have to,  but God already "proved"  Himself throughout history,  and it's up to us to adjust TO that proof,  or eventually fall short of it.

        "only a fool hath said in his heart there is no 'proof'"

        (1st visiondude 2:23)

        "It's Bethlehem - at least show some respect to your religion and beliefs!  Look it up if you can't spell it."

        sorry critic,  you cannot use my at times horrible spelling "skills"  as your latest excuse.

        even if i spelled it "bawabahethlem".........it will STILL be 100% true

                    "i am .........."meant to"       

        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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          Splitting hairs will not answer the question. Either answer the question, or stop making a fool of yourself.

          Boy I tell ya, both you and visionquest like to dig at the bottom of the pit to give an explanation, and that pit is getting deeper and deeper. What a shame.

          Look joker master fool,  you are no expert on anything other than parroting crap and being the master fool.  Your ignorance shines brightly and it doesn't take 8 minutes to see it,  it is instantaneous.  Bam! Joker fool parroting crap. 

          The real shame is your lack of scientific study.  You pretend to understand what you write but you are but a parrot plugged into your laptop!

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            Look joker master fool,  you are no expert on anything other than parroting crap and being the master fool.  Your ignorance shines brightly and it doesn't take 8 minutes to see it,  it is instantaneous.  Bam! Joker fool parroting crap. 

            The real shame is your lack of scientific study.  You pretend to understand what you write but you are but a parrot plugged into your laptop!

            joker parrot

            This coming from a someone who believes in silly fairytales. What a joke. Do you believe in Santa as well?

            When you realize you are living in a fantasy world, then talk to me. Until then, go and put your next tooth that comes loose under your pillow.

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              Look joker master fool,  you are no expert on anything other than parroting crap and being the master fool.  Your ignorance shines brightly and it doesn't take 8 minutes to see it,  it is instantaneous.  Bam! Joker fool parroting crap. 

              The real shame is your lack of scientific study.  You pretend to understand what you write but you are but a parrot plugged into your laptop!

              joker parrot

              Also, I don't have to be a master at anything to know you're delusional, just like Visionquest. I actually look into facts, not into LA LA Land for understanding. I never claimed to be a master at anything, but I know enough basic knowledge of what I've learned over the years to realize that you and Vision, and millions upon millions of others are mixed up individuals who are so afraid of your own mortality and the crap you've been indoctrinated with, from birth about some dumb fiery hell you're so afraid of If you don't behave well, overrides your common sense.

              So far, all you and Vision have produced is either fairytale stories from the Bible as proof as Vision has done, and since you can't answer the simple question either, you split hairs, as if that would make a difference whether the question can be answered or not. What the HECK difference does it make if light travels 186,000 miles per second or 186,000. 3 seconds. MAN...GET a clue.

              You'd make a good politician. He doesn't answer the question the reporter asks, but averts it with rediculous come backs. Nice try, but try it on somebody else!

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                Quote: Originally posted by visiondude

                all He did was SPEAK IT into existence.

                i have ZERO problem "believing" God can do anything He wants to.

                 

                visiondude, I gave it some deep thought and I decided to help you to expedite the end of the religious debate.  That way the thread can get back on track - or as RJ posted, perhaps QPs vs SPs is settled?

                If you believe that God can do anything He wants, then that solves EVERY POSSIBLE QUESTION THERE CAN BE ABOUT RELIGION or anything for that matter.  It's not proof to a lot of people but, hey, you can just keep repeating your answer and that solves it all in your world.  We now know that God must want children dying, or it wouldn't be so.  We now know why there are diseases, starving people and traffic jams. 

                Actually, I am not sure why you carried this thread for 60+ pages (71 pages now)?  I mean you could of just asked God for an answer to the question if QP are better than SP and then related the answer here and it would be proof enough.  Probably the thread would only be a couple pages that way.

                Of course, the question comes into my mind, WHY didn't God end this thread way back there instead of putting you through this ordeal?  Was God testing you, to see if you could "stay the course?"  But then I am reminded that God moves in mysterious ways.  Another great answer to so many questions.

                Anyone debating anything religious, give it up now.  It is futile.   Even Captain Jean-Luc Picard is helpless in this matter.  visiondude has explained how God can do anything he wants.  There is no possible logical, reasonable way to debate that.  That trumps everything and anything you can think of and anything where Google says otherwise.  Give it up people, I beg you...

                "We now know that God must want children dying

                at times, yes. 

                but your "version"  portends that God is "unrighteous"  in THAT decision making.

                God makes His decisions based on eternal values,  and not the immediacy or comfort of this life.

                if a "child"  missed out on an eternity because of that decision,  then and ONLY THEN would that "decision"  become "unrighteous"

                so extracting a child out of this world,  into an enviorment that is devoid of the garbage this world has to offer comparison wise is "unjust"?     get a clue.  God if anything is doing them a monumental favor by saving them OUT of a lifetime of only what He knew they would face

                unbelievers thinking they are the "experts"  on the why's of God's decision making

                 

                " I mean you could of just asked God for an answer to the question if QP are better than SP"

                i already knew the 'answer'  from the available sustained proof.  they both have an equal chance,  because they both are random

                i went "the distance"  in here,  because i am a long distance runner when backing up something, AND i gave you obviously ample chance to prove me wrong otherwise.

                how does it feel to know you offered up zip in the SP vs QP game for 71 PAGES

                notice how when someone asked,  i was at least willing to go the distance ?

                that's how real men of positional strength act

                "If you believe that God can do anything He wants, then that solves EVERY POSSIBLE QUESTION THERE CAN BE ABOUT RELIGION or anything for that matter. 

                good.  logical conclusion you have come to

                i not only believe "He can",  i know He can from personal experience WATCHING Him do things only He can do.......like tell us what will happen to us pre event, etc, etc,  etc, etc

                why do i experience occurances like that over a guy like you?    because i allow Him His rightful place in my life

                you could too,  it's just that you don't want to

                whatever God said about Himself,  i trust Him,  and take Him at His word,  so that i don't have to WASTE my time worrying about "how He did it".

                if He said He spoke the universe into existence .......i think that's ASTOUNDING,  and certainly well within Gods "ability"

                you only have "intellectual difficulty"  with that notion because if you "believed it",  you would then have to place the REST of your life under that umbrella.

                that's where people like you throw out the boat anchor,  and yank on the E-brake,  stopping short of that CHOICE,  and then the ensuing "excuses"  spilleth fortheth

                God can do anything,  because He is greater than "george lucas"

                duh

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                P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                  Also, I don't have to be a master at anything to know you're delusional, just like Visionquest. I actually look into facts, not into LA LA Land for understanding. I never claimed to be a master at anything, but I know enough basic knowledge of what I've learned over the years to realize that you and Vision, and millions upon millions of others are mixed up individuals who are so afraid of your own mortality and the crap you've been indoctrinated with, from birth about some dumb fiery hell you're so afraid of If you don't behave well, overrides your common sense.

                  So far, all you and Vision have produced is either fairytale stories from the Bible as proof as Vision has done, and since you can't answer the simple question either, you split hairs, as if that would make a difference whether the question can be answered or not. What the HECK difference does it make if light travels 186,000 miles per second or 186,000. 3 seconds. MAN...GET a clue.

                  You'd make a good politician. He doesn't answer the question the reporter asks, but averts it with rediculous come backs. Nice try, but try it on somebody else!

                  "I actually look into facts" you did it again!

                  "What the HECK difference does it make if light travels 186,000 miles per second or 186,000. 3 seconds. MAN...GET a clue." and again!

                  LMAO!  Thanks!

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                    your replicating what scientists theorize about light taking "that long

                    This is exactly what I wrote about in other pages and threads. You people discount science, yet in other areas will use science to your advantage, which BTW always backfires. You in particular may not use it, but they're out there.

                    Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's a FACT, not a theory, that light travels at 186,000 miles per second. They have very precise instruments that measure it.

                    You people make me laugh. You go about your everyday lives using technology based products and services which all started out as a scientific study. That is the most pathetic part of the debate.

                     When science benefits your daily lives as convienience or even saving your dang life in a hospital with machines, you give it no thought. You have a strong belief in science, yet when it's applied to religion, science is all of a sudden junk.

                    You'll have to make up your minds. Either you believe in science, or you don't. If you don't believe, then stop living off of science, and go be a nomad in the desert, living off the land.

                    If the sun blew up at this very moment, no one would know for about 8 and a third minutes. Now take that FACT, and post it on your bedroom wall.

                    God forbid anything bad should happen to you Visiondude, and you need radiation therapy, you can thank SCIENCE for saving your life.

                     

                     

                    "You people discount science,"

                    easy,  don't automatically lump me in with the masses,  because i LOVE science,  and how it parallels biblical truth.

                    give me biblical based science for $500,  alex

                    trouble is,  i know the fallacy of basing my life on theories,  and secular scientists are theory hounds calling theories "fact"

                    i like a good hypothezing session as much as the next guy,  but don't ask me to place my eternal destiny into the hands of some dude that has a certificate you can duplicate on the internet,   hanging on some wall in a classroom somewhere when that dude is guessing.

                    the beauty of God is that God doesn't "ballpark".   

                    all i have to do is find out what He already said about it,  and build my eternal valued belief around that

                    you build yours on guessers / hypothesizers.

                    i build mine on the one who gave man the knowledge to even build that telescope you were referring to,  so that can see His handiwork,   even after he knows "they"  won't give Him credit for it

                     

                    anytime you want to go down  "science"  blvd,  you can pick me up in your taxi

                    i LOVE science,  but i get a little "narrow"  when it comes to actual historical fact over wishful thinking

                     

                    oh,  and light does travel at that speed now,  when someone measures it now

                    when God first created light (and all the other peripheral entities surrounding your "example")..... it's "travel" (as you put it)  was instantaneous.

                    that's a whole lot more mindblowing than "186,000 miles per sec"

                    see how true science works

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                    P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                             until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                      Sounds like the debate about quick picks verses self/personal picks is settled and its a draw.  You can win with either but QPs involve less effort and no thought so it's the choice of 70-80% of players.

                      your a good guy with good heart RJ,   and that's why i added you to my sig

                       

                      VISION

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                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                        Also, I don't have to be a master at anything to know you're delusional, just like Visionquest. I actually look into facts, not into LA LA Land for understanding. I never claimed to be a master at anything, but I know enough basic knowledge of what I've learned over the years to realize that you and Vision, and millions upon millions of others are mixed up individuals who are so afraid of your own mortality and the crap you've been indoctrinated with, from birth about some dumb fiery hell you're so afraid of If you don't behave well, overrides your common sense.

                        So far, all you and Vision have produced is either fairytale stories from the Bible as proof as Vision has done, and since you can't answer the simple question either, you split hairs, as if that would make a difference whether the question can be answered or not. What the HECK difference does it make if light travels 186,000 miles per second or 186,000. 3 seconds. MAN...GET a clue.

                        You'd make a good politician. He doesn't answer the question the reporter asks, but averts it with rediculous come backs. Nice try, but try it on somebody else!

                        along"So far, all you and Vision have produced is either fairytale stories from the Bible as proof "

                        like i reminded you,  it's a prerecorded history book,  whether you believe it is a book of "fables"  or not,  and one thing even you can't do is dream up ENOUIGH of an excuse to make it "not a historical document"

                        speaking of intellectual integrity,   for you to say "it isn't",   you would have to wipe out the REST of world history along with it.

                        your an illusionist of what's really "true",  let's see you criss angel that into oblivion.

                         

                        since you started this current rodeo,  i would LOVE to see you say the bible "isn't"  an historical document.

                        truecritic is afraid of that one.   maybe you will be brave enough to make an attempt on white outing history

                        yes or no,  is the bible an historical document ,  joker?

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                        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                          I won't engage in some long drawn out religious argument with you but I have to tell you that sounds like one of the most foolish explanations I ever heard. 

                          That's not proof.  All these 6 thousand years (according to you), and that is the best you can come up with?

                          I'll even buy 10 QPs and see if God can make all 10 of them winners!  That would be the test.  If that happens, then I'll believe your foolish ideas!

                          BTW - quote  (1) born in bethelehem.   not just "bethelehem",  but a specific part of it

                          It's Bethlehem - at least show some respect to your religion and beliefs!  Look it up if you can't spell it.

                          Never argue with a fool, they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience.

                          "I won't engage in some long drawn out religious argument with you but I have to tell you that sounds like one of the most foolish explanations I ever heard."

                          I Agree! and if VD is a true representative of Christianity, it's easy to understand why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

                          "That's not proof.  All these 6 thousand years (according to you), and that is the best you can come up with?"

                          That's the same type of proof VD used with LP's RNG to create 46 combos so he could have "a contest" with Patrick. The results of the contest were exactly the same as probability predicted; one winner out of 40 so the contest proved nothing. When asked how it's possible we see stars so far away that it take the light from them traveling at 186,000 miles a second, a billion years or more to reach our sight on Earth, if the universe was only 6000 years, VD couldn't find the answer using an RNG so they choose to use a nonsensical QPs.

                          "It's Bethlehem - at least show some respect to your religion and beliefs!  Look it up if you can't spell it."

                          It's only been 400 years since Galileo was called a heretic for saying the Earth revolves around the Sun and put on house arrest for the rest of his life. Makes me wonder what punishment the Inquisition would have given VD for being disrespectful. But it's probably just being to lazy to capitalize words, punctuate sentences, and run a spell check. The call for proof of a profitable system is so VD can use that system instead of creating his own.

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                            anyone see DD today after his greatest "revelation"  to date last night?

                             

                            you know that's as low as a human being can go in societal measurements,   when you have to segregate "those people"  from the rest of the criminal population in prison.

                            when criminals think you ARE heinous,   your REALLY "heinous"

                            Scared

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                            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                              so extracting a child out of this world,  into an enviorment that is devoid of the garbage this world has to offer comparison wise is "unjust"?     get a clue.  God if anything is doing them a monumental favor by saving them OUT of a lifetime of only what He knew they would face

                               

                              Oh my goodness  I just couldn't resist  responding too this  one so where do I start??? according too  religion  there  was a war going on in the heavenly realm which is why the wicked  one is here  on earth so  I guess  it isn't much  of a paradise after all if war went on  there  like it does here.And  since when was extracting a child through VIOLENT means just,loving,kind and caring?? you  mean too tell me that all the  kids that were  raped,molested,beheaded,abused,decapitated,killed by a drunk driver or died from some deadly painful disease was  the  almighty's way of taking  them off this  planet because it's such a horrible place??? why not just  let them go too  sleep and NOT wake up?? that seems a lot more civilised don't you think?? or how about this why not just keep them  in heaven since this place is so wicked and  horrible? why allow them too be born into  this world  only too take them out later on in such a violent manner?? Does this make any sense too anyone??? NO it doesn't wow  this higher  power is doing them a favor by taking them out of here by having them experience death in a very  VIOLENT way and not even giving  them a choice in the matter.If I was told that at the age of 8 I would be kidnapped by a child molester who would  do what he wanted with me and then strangle me too death  and cut up my body so it's never  found so I could  come be with the  creator cause he loved me so much he wanted too take me out of here I would most definitely  tell him PLEASE NOT LIKE THAT!! is there  any other way?? how about letting me fall asleep  and not wake  up until I'm in heaven?? that way I feel no pain and my parents  grief isn't as severe compared  too dealing with me being kidnapped  and  never  return and one day some  hunter  finds some of my remains in the woods. "GO FIGURE"

                                 
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