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Posted: October 19, 2014, 1:39 pm - IP Logged

Haha I was thinking that too, I guess if you had said something like oh 25K and I found a 25K one, the conspiracy theories would be there lol...I actually plan on going to the lotto office on Monday to turn it in...Im interested in seeing what goes on there and hopefully it won't be my only time making a trip there...I'm more than happy with 3700..thanks for the insight as well

Great win, lottoguy. Sucks about the taxes, but that's country in which we live. I'm still waiting for my big break on the lotto (started playing in 1999 and never won more than $200 on a Scratcher--and that took nine years).

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    Great win, lottoguy. Sucks about the taxes, but that's country in which we live. I'm still waiting for my big break on the lotto (started playing in 1999 and never won more than $200 on a Scratcher--and that took nine years).

    Thanks, took my ticket to the Van Nuys district office and the paperwork was pretty simple, they gave me a copy of the paperwork along with a copy of the ticket on a paper...I guess it's memorabilia..the lady there said that it would take 6-8 weeks for the check to come in...now I guess I'll know what it means when they say the check's in the mail...thought they cut the check right there for you but no cigar...also while there, a gentlemen also claimed a 5K ticket from the 5M Jackpot Maker as well, so looking at the remaining prizes for that one there's 688 5K left out there vice 690..and a lady there claimed a 1K ticket as from the 5M Jackpot Maker...happy hunting scratchers

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      Posted: October 21, 2014, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

      When is the winner selected for these end of games? 

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        Posted: October 22, 2014, 5:01 am - IP Logged

        Hi Everyone,  first time poster here.

        Does anyone have any experience actually deducting any winnings they had to declare when they paid taxes on them?  I understand you can't deduct more than you won.  And that  you must keep a detailed journal of all of your winnings/losses. 

        But who has actually gone through the trouble of doing this?  How strict are they about the journal?  Would losing scratcher tickets suffice as proof of purchase and loss?

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          Posted: October 22, 2014, 5:27 am - IP Logged

          Hi CAScratcher20,

          With regards to not being able to order anymore $5 Million scratchers, that is not true.  Only 10 of 14 top prizes have ben claimed thus far.  When the final top prize is claimed for any given game, an order goes out to all retailers to pull all existing packs that they have and to not sell anymore.  At which point, the retailers lottery rep will come by and pick up the packs.

          Now, do all retailers abide by this rule to pull them right when they get the order?  Sadly the answer to that is no they do not.  Many times, certain games are such hot sellers that retailers want to continue to sell them because they're such great sellers, regardless if all the top prizes have been claimed.  Other times, the notices that retailers receive is an alert via the lottery terminal, which is very easy to miss.  Other times, players ASK for the games by name and want to continue to play them regardless if all the top prizes have already been claimed.

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            Posted: October 22, 2014, 5:55 am - IP Logged

            Full Disclosure - I'm a retailer

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              Posted: October 22, 2014, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

              When is the winner selected for these end of games? 

              Since those games reached their deadline in terms of entry date, it could be any time between now and November 5th, it is always a 2 week span window.

              Long time ago they used to declare a winner within 4 days, but now and days they cut to closer to the deadline. One time the pushed back the announcement of the winner after the original date.

              I am sure you are eager for those Lucky for Life draws, but the odds/entries on those I bet will be record breaking.

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                Posted: October 22, 2014, 2:19 pm - IP Logged

                Hi Everyone,  first time poster here.

                Does anyone have any experience actually deducting any winnings they had to declare when they paid taxes on them?  I understand you can't deduct more than you won.  And that  you must keep a detailed journal of all of your winnings/losses. 

                But who has actually gone through the trouble of doing this?  How strict are they about the journal?  Would losing scratcher tickets suffice as proof of purchase and loss?

                Welcome to this thread DGinElMonte, it is cool to see a retailer representation here. Not sure what you are allowed to divulge as an agreement to the CALottery.

                The basis for the $5million jackpot was from hardcore players on the CALottery facebook page. I still see them in stores even after a few months. If you can order more of those tickets, that is all I need to hear to believe the game is still good (horrible game from my standpoint as a player). As far as the top ticket situation goes, it is very rare to see all the top prizes claimed, been observing this for more than 10 years and I have heard from other state lottery posts here that they do receive a direct order from the Lottery to stop selling the game when all top prizes are claimed.

                I do not have any experiences myself with offsetting taxable lottery jackpot income, I heard somewhere in addition to maintaining a detailed journal, you have to ask for all sales receipts for every purchase (avoid buying tickets from kiosks) and photocopies of every scratcher or draw game you played win or loss (must be reasonable, cannot just include losing tickets).

                Now and days the IRS are tight will squeeze out as much taxes owed to them as possible. If someone is trying to write off majority losses for a very large jackpot win, the IRS will perform an audit and if you really want to write off the winnings at that point, you have to show your bank account activity. That is the reason casinos provide a disclaimer that it is not actual report when you get win loss statement.

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                  Posted: October 22, 2014, 4:28 pm - IP Logged

                  Thanks for the welcome.  I'll answer any questions that you guys have as long as it doesn't violate any existing agreements that I have with the lottery.   But it looks like you guys are well informed already. 

                  There are still quite a few winners on the $5m jackpot out there.   We personally had a $100,000 winner about two months ago. I'll post a picture later tonight when I get home.  So they're out there. 

                  I like to stay as informed as possible when it comes to the lottery (winning,  redeeming,  odds)  so I can answer any questions my players might have. 

                  But you're right it is very rare for all the top prizes to be redeemed.  I can personally recall only 3 instances and this was years ago.

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                    Thanks for the welcome.  I'll answer any questions that you guys have as long as it doesn't violate any existing agreements that I have with the lottery.   But it looks like you guys are well informed already. 

                    There are still quite a few winners on the $5m jackpot out there.   We personally had a $100,000 winner about two months ago. I'll post a picture later tonight when I get home.  So they're out there. 

                    I like to stay as informed as possible when it comes to the lottery (winning,  redeeming,  odds)  so I can answer any questions my players might have. 

                    But you're right it is very rare for all the top prizes to be redeemed.  I can personally recall only 3 instances and this was years ago.

                    Coincidentally We had a post back in May where someone won $100k at El Monte

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/250725/3615774

                    Not sure if it is at your location or another winner in the same city as your handle.

                    Now and days, scratchers end with about half of the top prizes. Again, thanks for providing insight. Was wondering if you had the Retail Product Plan this month to know what the odds are for the new $10 Emerald 10's game.

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                      Posted: October 22, 2014, 11:54 pm - IP Logged

                      No that wasn't my place.  The post specifies that it was won at a gas station.  I have a donut shop.  The ticket was won on the $5 Million Jackpost game.  I should have a pic of it on my computer.  Let me find it and I'll update this post with it. 

                      I was looking on the California Website to see if they archived a video they did on our store to show you guys.  It was made when we were Retailer of the Year in 2008.  But looks like it's been purged from their site.

                      Here's the Emerald 10s product plan.  Let me know if you want anything else.

                       

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                        Posted: October 23, 2014, 1:21 pm - IP Logged

                        Thanks again DGinElMonte for posting the Emerald 10's payout table, I know this game will be out soon but wanted to see the odds as I play $10 or $20 games as its payout percentages are much higher than the other ticket values. It seems like the payout is the same as the Wheel of Fortune game, but I looked forward to this one because it is very easy to play like the 7's games, less prone to make mistakes and throw away a winning ticket than matching numbers. I wonder what took them so long (like 3 years) to come out with this for a $10 game.

                        Seems like 1 in 2 million plus odds for the top prize are the new trend for $10 scratchers lately. More $50 and $100 winners are created by cutting the jackpot winners in half, does not go favorable to those that play for the top prize. The 1 in 1.2 million $10 games were not selling well except for the Crossword games, so CA Gold and Diamond Millionaire had to end early.

                        I might have seen the video you are referring to, it might be this

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfCuKXwys8s&list=UUKsmszfI73NHcmJvKqsBccA

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                          Posted: October 23, 2014, 3:18 pm - IP Logged

                          Egg on my face, it must have been 2007.  I tried searching their Youtube account and it's not there.  We put up a little poster in our shop to commemorate the occasion. 

                          We should be getting the new games anytime now, either today or tomorrow would be my best guess.  Depends on whenever the UPS guy decides to show up and deliver it.

                          As for mistakenly throwing away winning tickets.  I always tell my players to check their tickets before tossing them.  Even if you think it's a non-winner.  I can't tell you how often I've seen tickets redeemed that someone picked up off a table or trash can.  The highest value I've seen redeemed in this fashion was a $500 winner. 

                          Another suggestion is never tell the retailer how much you've won unless you've previously verified it on a terminal.  If it's a place you trust then this isn't an issue.  This is also a suggestion I tell to my newer players.  Sadly, there are a lot of dishonest retailers out there who will cash your ticket and will only give you the amount you stated. 

                          In the next 4-6 months you'll hopefully see more of those little ticket checking thingies out.  Currently, each one is hard wired to a terminal, so if a store has one lottery terminal, they only have one ticket checking thingie.  They're currently testing a wifi enabled one at my shop, and from what the GTECH guys tell me, it's the only one in California so far so they're checking it for software issues and making sure it's ready for primetime before putting them in more retailers.

                          I have my own personal thoughts on odds and how to best play the Scratcher games.  It's a bit long winded so if anyone is interested in hearing it I'll type it all out.

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                            Egg on my face, it must have been 2007.  I tried searching their Youtube account and it's not there.  We put up a little poster in our shop to commemorate the occasion. 

                            We should be getting the new games anytime now, either today or tomorrow would be my best guess.  Depends on whenever the UPS guy decides to show up and deliver it.

                            As for mistakenly throwing away winning tickets.  I always tell my players to check their tickets before tossing them.  Even if you think it's a non-winner.  I can't tell you how often I've seen tickets redeemed that someone picked up off a table or trash can.  The highest value I've seen redeemed in this fashion was a $500 winner. 

                            Another suggestion is never tell the retailer how much you've won unless you've previously verified it on a terminal.  If it's a place you trust then this isn't an issue.  This is also a suggestion I tell to my newer players.  Sadly, there are a lot of dishonest retailers out there who will cash your ticket and will only give you the amount you stated. 

                            In the next 4-6 months you'll hopefully see more of those little ticket checking thingies out.  Currently, each one is hard wired to a terminal, so if a store has one lottery terminal, they only have one ticket checking thingie.  They're currently testing a wifi enabled one at my shop, and from what the GTECH guys tell me, it's the only one in California so far so they're checking it for software issues and making sure it's ready for primetime before putting them in more retailers.

                            I have my own personal thoughts on odds and how to best play the Scratcher games.  It's a bit long winded so if anyone is interested in hearing it I'll type it all out.

                            It is a distinct honor to even be a retailer of the year regardless when it happened. People will flock over to lucky retailers such as Bluebird Liquor (since this year, they lowered the requirements) and play there. The profit margin must be decent.

                            Thanks for all the heads up from what you see from the retailer side. For scratchers since the 2nd Chance or Replay system came out, I've always entered a ticket code on the system to verify every ticket. Although it is already smart to enter all losing tickets to gain a chance at the End of Top Prize draw, I see it a better incentive to check for winners or losers before throwing away the ticket.

                            It is easy to double check number matching games, but for crosswords, happened a good amount of times miss 1 or 2 words and get a bigger than expected payout. I never tell the retailer how much I won. I keep an eye on the terminal where it flashes "WINNER $20" or so.

                            If is not against your agreement with the CALottery, I would definitely like to hear about your thoughts about playing. You can take your time if it is long, I usually write slow so I completely understand it takes a long time. These days the mobile phone talk to text (internet connection required) things work pretty good.

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                              What do you mean by "lowered the requirements" for Bluebird Liquor?  I've always found it interesting people going there when jackpot fever hits and wait hours and hours in line to play their own numbers. 

                              Here is something interesting that I've noticed with regards to high jackpots on Mega Millions and Power Ball.  Back when Mega Millions (MM) was the only multi-state game in California, it was unusual when the jackpot hit $200+ million (this was before they modified the game to make it harder to win the top prize).  When the jackpot for MM finally did break $150+ million, jackpot fever would set in and we would see a noticeable increase in player spending along with long lines to buy tickets.  Then when Power Ball came into the mix, jackpots got huge, culminating in the huge $500+ million jackpot.  But now with high jackpots being relatively commonplace, I've notice what I described as "jackpot fatigue" set in with the general public.  We see huge jackpots often enough now that the lure of $$200+ million jackpots isn't enough to get people excited anymore.  We don't get long lines anymore until the jackpot hits $300+ million.   Granted my store has never been a top seller for Superlotto, Mega Million, and Powerball, but we are a top seller for scratchers so we get a lot of traffic.

                                 
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