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Are pre-draws corrupting your lottery strategy ?

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but a system from a designer is only good as the info fed into the system. inaccurate infor will only result in innaccurate results, just like wheel. A wheel is only good as the numbers in them. You could have the best wheels in the owrld, but if not enough of the winning numbers are in them, you don't win.

Very very  true..!!!

For the life of me i still cant imagine why everyone cannot see this simple logic

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    Here's my take on predraws affecting a system - they don't. The reason they don't affect a system is because the system designer is going by what is observed - that is, the official winning numbers, not the unobserved predraw numbers. Therefore, from drawing to drawing, the system will do exactly what it needs to.

    They had a Pick-4 promotion where if a certain colored ball was drawn, they drew a second Pick-4 number. It gave the players two chances to win.

    The Texas Lottery has four pre-drawing test numbers but to my knowledge never paid out a penny for matching those numbers. Using the test numbers must be like predicting 50 pick-3 numbers, straight/box, "good for all states" and getting an"atta boy" posts for accomplishing nothing.

    "that is, the official winning numbers"

    Yep, they won't pay off for matching the test numbers or the numbers drawn in other states.

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      Very very  true..!!!

      For the life of me i still cant imagine why everyone cannot see this simple logic

      probably ego mainly. a lot of good people her have worked on the lottery with good intentions and shall i say very hard, for many years, so they feel they're above the "Simpletons" who come along. how dare they question me...lol

      anyways, i'm sure they mean well, but like you ststed, it's a simple concept. don't put so much thought into it.

      btw, in my new thread i started tonight with the texas challenge, i clearly wrote a disclaimer because despite my greatest efforts with pre draw numbers, there is still the rotation of the ball sets and machine rotations that have to be dealt with, in a ddition to the pre draw numbers. even then, i think it would be a logistic nightmare to track all those rotations every night. i would need a program to do it automatically.

      the best thing would be to leave the machines and balls alone. if it breaks, you do another run on a different machine. afterall, what do they do when a machine breaks down during a pre test? they either fix it and use it, or use another machine. if the machine breaks down during a draw, which is rare, another machine is used. for security in tampering, use 24 hour surveillance cameras.

      it's very simple, yet greed will always get in the way. it's not like they're not making enough already...that's beyond greed to me.


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        probably ego mainly. a lot of good people her have worked on the lottery with good intentions and shall i say very hard, for many years, so they feel they're above the "Simpletons" who come along. how dare they question me...lol

        anyways, i'm sure they mean well, but like you ststed, it's a simple concept. don't put so much thought into it.

        btw, in my new thread i started tonight with the texas challenge, i clearly wrote a disclaimer because despite my greatest efforts with pre draw numbers, there is still the rotation of the ball sets and machine rotations that have to be dealt with, in a ddition to the pre draw numbers. even then, i think it would be a logistic nightmare to track all those rotations every night. i would need a program to do it automatically.

        the best thing would be to leave the machines and balls alone. if it breaks, you do another run on a different machine. afterall, what do they do when a machine breaks down during a pre test? they either fix it and use it, or use another machine. if the machine breaks down during a draw, which is rare, another machine is used. for security in tampering, use 24 hour surveillance cameras.

        it's very simple, yet greed will always get in the way. it's not like they're not making enough already...that's beyond greed to me.

        Somer ?

        All state lotteries out there know that many people have pick 3 software.

        State lotteries basically laugh their assses off at people who use pick 3 software because they know theyre feeding inaccurate/missing data into their program....

        Lets take the followers list for example that is available in lot soft pro that ricky is selling.... the last number was drawn in the pre-draws and not the live draws....here is yet another example of why these programs are ineffective due to pre-draws.

        Im not trying to be vindictive .... i just want ricky to man up an be honest if not ive got some snake oil that im gonna sell him.

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          Somer ?

          All state lotteries out there know that many people have pick 3 software.

          State lotteries basically laugh their assses off at people who use pick 3 software because they know theyre feeding inaccurate/missing data into their program....

          Lets take the followers list for example that is available in lot soft pro that ricky is selling.... the last number was drawn in the pre-draws and not the live draws....here is yet another example of why these programs are ineffective due to pre-draws.

          Im not trying to be vindictive .... i just want ricky to man up an be honest if not ive got some snake oil that im gonna sell him.

          11 pages and you've put nothing on the table to establish you even have a point O_o!?!

          Vergie was right. All you want to do is argue. But starting a thread to trash Ricky and/or his software is not a mature way to handle your complaint. 

          And just saying you are not trying to be vindictive, doesn't mean you aren't being vindictive. YOU ARE.

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            After reviewing the banter back and forth of both interesting and insulting opinions, we enjoyed every word. We need to go back to the original question and understand what the question is asking and what answer it is seeking. The question, "Are pre-draws corrupting your lottery strategy?", has three parts we can examine: pre-draws, your lottery strategy, and corrupting. Pre-draw is obvious as it relates to the pre-draw tests before each official drawing. Your lottery strategy tells us that some form a selection process is used to derive a playable set of numbers for a given official draw. Finally, there is corrupting and its interpretation is where we think the understanding begins to diverge.

            Based on the replies we see and our own understanding, corrupting is being interpreted in a few ways. First, it could imply the pre-draws by themselves influence or alter the outcome of the official draw. Second, it could imply the pre-draws are being used to influence or alter the outcome of the official draw. Third, it could imply the lack of pre-draw data has an influence on your lottery picking strategy. Fourth, it could imply just plain old corruption; in that the lottery uses the pre-draw numbers to fix the drawing so anyone playing their own numbers can't win by picking whatever pre-draw fits the least number of matching self picked numbers.

            The first and third interpretations seem to be the most prevalent points of view. In the first interpretation, under honest and ideal conditions, the pre-draws should not influence the official draws. However, uncertainty might suggest that sampling has some affect on the next sample. This is the underlying reason why many of us analyze draw data. If there were no pre-draw, how do you select numbers? Some might say, "Well, I use the previous draws." OK, so you use previous draws, meaning there is some connection between the previous and the next. Usually this would be to see if certain patterns are happening, Or, if something is due, overdue, hot, cold, what have you. But aren't previous draws really another form of pre-draw? Previous or pre, to occur before something else, hence, PREvious draw or pre-draw. This leads to the third interpretation and why it might be important in knowing the pre-draw data. There may be some information that could be used just like the previous draws that are used by most everyone else. However, it should be noted that under honest and ideal conditions, the previous draw or pre-draw should not influence the official draws. But if pre-draws and previous draws have equal validity, then we should also ask the question, with equal validity, "Are previous draws corrupting your lottery strategy?"

            Moving on to the second and fourth interpretations; both of which have very serious implications beyond the original question. In some of the replies, there is a perception the pre-draws are used as means of thwarting any strategy someone may have come up with. Yes, the possibility does exist that pre-draws are used in this way. How we go about answering this can be partially handle between Lottery Posts members. But, it's important to understand, the other part must be directed at the Lottery and Lottery Officials. We're only going to get part of the answer between each of us; this has to be directed to the other parties involved, The Lottery. Without that, everyone here is going to be in a round and round fashion, beating each other over the head with stats, figures, opinions, and occasional tangential thoughts askew.

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              I Agree! 100%

               

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                Somer ?

                All state lotteries out there know that many people have pick 3 software.

                State lotteries basically laugh their assses off at people who use pick 3 software because they know theyre feeding inaccurate/missing data into their program....

                Lets take the followers list for example that is available in lot soft pro that ricky is selling.... the last number was drawn in the pre-draws and not the live draws....here is yet another example of why these programs are ineffective due to pre-draws.

                Im not trying to be vindictive .... i just want ricky to man up an be honest if not ive got some snake oil that im gonna sell him.

                Uh?

                I have to man up?

                I have to be honest?

                About what?
                Do you think that i am the person behind all the lotteries, the one who pulls the strings, or something like that??? Leaving

                I've posted statistical data that shows there is no difference in resulting statistics!!!
                Ofcourse, it is easy to just ignore that and continiue to live in a dreamworld. I have tons and tons of facts, i can backup everything i say about this.
                I show mathematics are what they are and that pre-draws or no pre-draws makes no difference in the long run (and figures show that!!!), i don't think it is my job to show why they are what they are. Perhaps you can blame Stephen Hawking for the fact we as humans can not see ultraviolet light Disapprove
                You are making all these statements about this and that, and that might all be very entertaining, but can you provide some facts please?

                 

                Tomorrow someone can start a thread, another one jumps in and states the earth is actually flat.
                Some person posts scientific proof the earth is not flat, and the other person just says "i don't care squat for your proof".
                I assume the discussion is pretty much closed at that point...Bed

                 

                Then you start off there are too many stats in my software... that is one weird statement.
                First of all, i have always stated, and very clearly, that my software doesn't predict, it doesn't predict anything. What it does is collect the data that is provided by the lotteries, and upon that it spits out thousand of statistical data which must interpreted by the user as she or he pleases.
                Person A likes to use Part Y, person B likes to use Part X and person C likes to use Part Z when they study the game.
                According to your statement i should provide 3 different softwarepackages. In fact, i should provide a different softwarepackage for everyone because everyone looks at the game differently.

                That is like saying to Microsoft "Hey, your Microsoft Word software stinks, there's too much in it, could you please distribute a version of MS Word where i can only put in Bold and Italic, because there are way too many functions in there now"


                I provide a tool.
                Years ago i've read posts about people, and just for examples sake, that tracked pairs. It took them X seconds each day to do this.
                I provided a tool that brought back those X seconds to just a split second.
                The reason there is something like "Followers" in my software is because people have asked for it.
                Can you imagine that? Can you even begin to imagine that what i provide in my software actually are things that people have asked, or did you think i just put in there what i and only i think is relevant?

                There are people out there that track 25 different things each day, for several states. Years ago this pulled 8 hours of their time, now it takes them 5 seconds. I guess this makes me a crook and a thief...

                And suddenly i am the bad guy and have to 'man up' and 'be honest'???

                You're tripping man.

                Just provide data, provide facts about what you are writing.
                Anyone can talk the talk, few can walk the walk.

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                  If you were a time traveller and could dopple gang the drawings, would you dopple gang the pre draw or the scheduled official draw?  I would doppel gang the official drawing because the pre draws need more bass lessons and don't count.  The entropy of the official drawing is setup by the  pre draws' building entropy.

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                    Uh?

                    I have to man up?

                    I have to be honest?

                    About what?
                    Do you think that i am the person behind all the lotteries, the one who pulls the strings, or something like that??? Leaving

                    I've posted statistical data that shows there is no difference in resulting statistics!!!
                    Ofcourse, it is easy to just ignore that and continiue to live in a dreamworld. I have tons and tons of facts, i can backup everything i say about this.
                    I show mathematics are what they are and that pre-draws or no pre-draws makes no difference in the long run (and figures show that!!!), i don't think it is my job to show why they are what they are. Perhaps you can blame Stephen Hawking for the fact we as humans can not see ultraviolet light Disapprove
                    You are making all these statements about this and that, and that might all be very entertaining, but can you provide some facts please?

                     

                    Tomorrow someone can start a thread, another one jumps in and states the earth is actually flat.
                    Some person posts scientific proof the earth is not flat, and the other person just says "i don't care squat for your proof".
                    I assume the discussion is pretty much closed at that point...Bed

                     

                    Then you start off there are too many stats in my software... that is one weird statement.
                    First of all, i have always stated, and very clearly, that my software doesn't predict, it doesn't predict anything. What it does is collect the data that is provided by the lotteries, and upon that it spits out thousand of statistical data which must interpreted by the user as she or he pleases.
                    Person A likes to use Part Y, person B likes to use Part X and person C likes to use Part Z when they study the game.
                    According to your statement i should provide 3 different softwarepackages. In fact, i should provide a different softwarepackage for everyone because everyone looks at the game differently.

                    That is like saying to Microsoft "Hey, your Microsoft Word software stinks, there's too much in it, could you please distribute a version of MS Word where i can only put in Bold and Italic, because there are way too many functions in there now"


                    I provide a tool.
                    Years ago i've read posts about people, and just for examples sake, that tracked pairs. It took them X seconds each day to do this.
                    I provided a tool that brought back those X seconds to just a split second.
                    The reason there is something like "Followers" in my software is because people have asked for it.
                    Can you imagine that? Can you even begin to imagine that what i provide in my software actually are things that people have asked, or did you think i just put in there what i and only i think is relevant?

                    There are people out there that track 25 different things each day, for several states. Years ago this pulled 8 hours of their time, now it takes them 5 seconds. I guess this makes me a crook and a thief...

                    And suddenly i am the bad guy and have to 'man up' and 'be honest'???

                    You're tripping man.

                    Just provide data, provide facts about what you are writing.
                    Anyone can talk the talk, few can walk the walk.

                    Ricky ?

                    Why dont you just simplify your program ?

                    People have to track hundreds of different structures in lot soft pro....this isn't helpful in anyway matter of fact its confusing and even more still to someone who you are selling it to who knows absolutely nothing about statistics.

                    Ricky wrote :"I've posted statistical data that shows there is no difference in resulting statistics!!! Ofcourse, it is easy to just ignore that and continiue to live in a dreamworld. I have tons and tons of facts, i can backup everything i say about this had many emails regarding this subject."

                    Actually you cant back it up because all combinations eventually hit over time...and its the over time part is where youll try to skew the facts

                    As far as the followers list goes there is no statistical evidence whatsoever that combinations follow each other.Youve probably had many emails also stating the difficulty in understanding all the many structures that your program has as well, right ?

                    I am though impressed with your technical prowess in creating your program however you learned long ago that you could make more money selling your system to addicted gamblers than you could gambling yourself.

                    Like ive said many times pre-draws are hidden data that renders pick3 software ineffective......meaning those digits that you have listed arent missing given that they have previously hit in the pre-draws....so playing those missing structures means all youll be doing is missing a lot of money in the process.

                    Just accept it even if it does effect your sales either that or ill think that youre no different than the booze or drug salesman that offer their services.


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                      11 pages and you've put nothing on the table to establish you even have a point O_o!?!

                      Vergie was right. All you want to do is argue. But starting a thread to trash Ricky and/or his software is not a mature way to handle your complaint. 

                      And just saying you are not trying to be vindictive, doesn't mean you aren't being vindictive. YOU ARE.

                      You know nothing about me or vergie nor was this thread intended to bash ricky or his program.

                      Youre just another troll stating an opinion on something you know nothing about .

                      Ill start a thread on quantum entanglement and then you can jump right on in and give us some of your wise counsel on that ......... ok ?

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                        After reviewing the banter back and forth of both interesting and insulting opinions, we enjoyed every word. We need to go back to the original question and understand what the question is asking and what answer it is seeking. The question, "Are pre-draws corrupting your lottery strategy?", has three parts we can examine: pre-draws, your lottery strategy, and corrupting. Pre-draw is obvious as it relates to the pre-draw tests before each official drawing. Your lottery strategy tells us that some form a selection process is used to derive a playable set of numbers for a given official draw. Finally, there is corrupting and its interpretation is where we think the understanding begins to diverge.

                        Based on the replies we see and our own understanding, corrupting is being interpreted in a few ways. First, it could imply the pre-draws by themselves influence or alter the outcome of the official draw. Second, it could imply the pre-draws are being used to influence or alter the outcome of the official draw. Third, it could imply the lack of pre-draw data has an influence on your lottery picking strategy. Fourth, it could imply just plain old corruption; in that the lottery uses the pre-draw numbers to fix the drawing so anyone playing their own numbers can't win by picking whatever pre-draw fits the least number of matching self picked numbers.

                        The first and third interpretations seem to be the most prevalent points of view. In the first interpretation, under honest and ideal conditions, the pre-draws should not influence the official draws. However, uncertainty might suggest that sampling has some affect on the next sample. This is the underlying reason why many of us analyze draw data. If there were no pre-draw, how do you select numbers? Some might say, "Well, I use the previous draws." OK, so you use previous draws, meaning there is some connection between the previous and the next. Usually this would be to see if certain patterns are happening, Or, if something is due, overdue, hot, cold, what have you. But aren't previous draws really another form of pre-draw? Previous or pre, to occur before something else, hence, PREvious draw or pre-draw. This leads to the third interpretation and why it might be important in knowing the pre-draw data. There may be some information that could be used just like the previous draws that are used by most everyone else. However, it should be noted that under honest and ideal conditions, the previous draw or pre-draw should not influence the official draws. But if pre-draws and previous draws have equal validity, then we should also ask the question, with equal validity, "Are previous draws corrupting your lottery strategy?"

                        Moving on to the second and fourth interpretations; both of which have very serious implications beyond the original question. In some of the replies, there is a perception the pre-draws are used as means of thwarting any strategy someone may have come up with. Yes, the possibility does exist that pre-draws are used in this way. How we go about answering this can be partially handle between Lottery Posts members. But, it's important to understand, the other part must be directed at the Lottery and Lottery Officials. We're only going to get part of the answer between each of us; this has to be directed to the other parties involved, The Lottery. Without that, everyone here is going to be in a round and round fashion, beating each other over the head with stats, figures, opinions, and occasional tangential thoughts askew.

                        Alright, most of you may have had time to read our post. We made it that way, because we need to separate the two interpretations: Data Corruption and Lottery Corruption. Each has to be set to some constant understanding before we can proceed. With Data Corruption it assumes the Lottery is doing its job honestly and the data we are getting, or lack thereof, is Causing a problem in our strategy. With Lottery Corruption it assumes the Lottery is not doing its job honestly and any data we are getting, or lack thereof, Is the problem in our strategy. In either case, we have partial control over what we can examine and test, the data corruption. The data corruption can be of two forms, input and output; draw and strategy. Following the old saying, "Garbage in, Garbage out.", the input appears to have a greater effect on the output than just output alone.

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                          I hate to rain on everybody's parade here but have most of you just plain forgotten these are ping pong balls with air blowing them around in a machine & then 3 seperate numbers pop out in p3 or whichever game you're playing.

                          I might not come close to being as smart as most of you sound like you are but even I can understand that there is no way we are going to be able to come up with a system to beat the odds in pick 3.

                          I don't worry about pre-draws at all but I do look at the actual past numbers that have fallen in P3 & then that is a big guess right there.  It does seem odd that when you go back in years past you can see patterns of several numbers falling in a group more than once but there are only 10 numbers we are dealing with here...0 to 9, so quite naturally there are going to be some patterns that fall from those 10 numbers together sometimes.

                          The best thing to do is try not to analyze the game too much or worry about pre-draws etc, or it will drive you crazy!

                          Just try to have fun playing!

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                            Ricky ?

                            Why dont you just simplify your program ?

                            People have to track hundreds of different structures in lot soft pro....this isn't helpful in anyway matter of fact its confusing and even more still to someone who you are selling it to who knows absolutely nothing about statistics.

                            Ricky wrote :"I've posted statistical data that shows there is no difference in resulting statistics!!! Ofcourse, it is easy to just ignore that and continiue to live in a dreamworld. I have tons and tons of facts, i can backup everything i say about this had many emails regarding this subject."

                            Actually you cant back it up because all combinations eventually hit over time...and its the over time part is where youll try to skew the facts

                            As far as the followers list goes there is no statistical evidence whatsoever that combinations follow each other.Youve probably had many emails also stating the difficulty in understanding all the many structures that your program has as well, right ?

                            I am though impressed with your technical prowess in creating your program however you learned long ago that you could make more money selling your system to addicted gamblers than you could gambling yourself.

                            Like ive said many times pre-draws are hidden data that renders pick3 software ineffective......meaning those digits that you have listed arent missing given that they have previously hit in the pre-draws....so playing those missing structures means all youll be doing is missing a lot of money in the process.

                            Just accept it even if it does effect your sales either that or ill think that youre no different than the booze or drug salesman that offer their services.

                            What the heck?

                            You quote me with " I have tons and tons of facts, i can backup everything i say about this had many emails regarding this subject."

                            ???

                            I have not written that. Do you always manufacture quotes?

                             

                            Yes i had emails from people asking how certain things in the software works. Pretty normal, no?
                            Again i will point to software like MS Word, MS Excel and such.
                            Some people, user A, use Word pretty basic, type their letter, print it out and done is done.
                            Other people, user B, create a list of persons in Excel, then use Mailmerge in Word.
                            Other people, user C, create legends (i guess it is called legends in English, i'm not sure of that, anyway, i refer to a contents table) for their documents.

                            What you are saying is: Microsoft should in fact create 3 different products. One for user A, one for user B and one for user C.

                            I hope you realize how totally weird that sounds...

                            A statement like user A would say "i have no use for Mailmerge or contents table, so Word is a bad product"
                            A statement like user B would say "i have no use for content tables, so Word is a bad product"
                            A statement like user C would say "Okay, this thing does everything i need and more. I don't use everything but i might learn and explore"

                            Again something i have stated before, and before and before: anyone who is in search of software that when they start it up, and press a button and 'the winning numbers' roll out, should stay far away from LotSoft"
                            My software has many & many different tools, and i doubt anyone out there is using them all. And this might be something that you just don't seem to understand, but that is the whole point of such software. A wide spectrum of people can use it to their benefit.

                            And you know, your statement "you learned long ago that you could make more money selling your system to addicted gamblers than you could gambling yourself" is just as low as it can get. But it doesn't surprise me at all.
                            Next thing you will be attacking Todd? Because this site offers so much more than one single user is able to use. Are you gonna tell Todd he should remove the 'Lucky systems' because you are not using it? Are you gonna tell Todd he should in fact create like 50 different websites because there are too much tools on this one?
                            Are you gonna tell Todd he should put a big marker on the homepage that his drawhistory of the pick3 games is totally incorrect because the pre-draws are not included?

                            Or are you gonna tell Todd he has some impressive technical prowess in creating this site but that he has learned a long ago that he could make more money selling subscriptions to addicted gamblers than he could make by gambling himself"

                            I can tell you right now that i find it nothing else than normal that people like Todd sell subscriptions. Do you have any idea how many hours, days, months and in the end years are put into creating such things?

                            I  can not speak for Todd, but i would be surprised if money is the thing he does it for! For me i can tell you i could and would make alot more money if i would not spend another hour in thinking and creating extra tools to put into the software.
                            As English is not my native language i find the next hard to explain, but it is a drive inside. I read up on problems some people have, spending hours and hours on their calculations and create tools for it so they have their result in 1 second. 1 Tool is not free, all the others, and there are plenty of them!!!, i have written are totally free.

                            Perhaps you could show everyone a list here of everything you have spend days, weeks and months on, and that you have contributed for free?
                            Calling people trolls is not exactly my idea of contribution...

                            lasas3

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                              The Quantum Master
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                              Posted: January 8, 2012, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

                              Alright, most of you may have had time to read our post. We made it that way, because we need to separate the two interpretations: Data Corruption and Lottery Corruption. Each has to be set to some constant understanding before we can proceed. With Data Corruption it assumes the Lottery is doing its job honestly and the data we are getting, or lack thereof, is Causing a problem in our strategy. With Lottery Corruption it assumes the Lottery is not doing its job honestly and any data we are getting, or lack thereof, Is the problem in our strategy. In either case, we have partial control over what we can examine and test, the data corruption. The data corruption can be of two forms, input and output; draw and strategy. Following the old saying, "Garbage in, Garbage out.", the input appears to have a greater effect on the output than just output alone.

                              The input comes in three types: pre-draw, official draw, and in some cases, post-draw. As it relates to this topic, the pre-draw and/or official draw are our input. This leaves us with two ways of using the input: a strategy based on official draws alone, and a strategy based on pre-draws and official draws together. From what we've read, the problem in our strategy arises from the fact that our winning numbers are coming up in the pre-draw more often.

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