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How about a new Systems forum based on just "facts"

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Posted: October 10, 2014, 12:35 am - IP Logged

Jimmy kind of reminds me of what those agents in Communist countries would do, like the KGB, the East-German Stasi. They'd go around among the people, and publicly bad-mouth the regime, complain about the leadership, about the socialist paradise ideal... laying out bait, waiting for the unwary citizen to agree and weigh in... at which point, the agent would make his notation... and, soon after, the secret police would show up in the dead of night to whisk the agreer away.

Which is to say: I think Jimmy is hoping desperately one of us fesses up to prove him wrong, and says, "You're so wrong, Jimmy, HERE'S how you win!"

And then Jimmy goes away and reports to his lottery masters.

And then....

Luckily, none of us know what we're doing. Nope. We're all rubes. Know-nothings. Even under torture. Smile

We have no dreams at all, or interesting ones. We should learn to be awake the same way—not at all, or in an interesting manner.   -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Hi all

    Don't be fooled by jimbo's response, he would like to switch the blame here and make Todd

    look like the bad guy, that's not the case.   Jimmy's doing another side step suggesting that

    Todd is against true mathematical discussion of lottery systems and anyone who attempts to

    do so will be labeled a disruptor.  jimbo has no interest in anything or anyone but his own self

    no matter how many different spins he attaches to his post stating otherwise.   What's a little

    odd to me is the number of times jimbo has revamped his mission statement so that it fits into

    the current argument.   Next week he may list his anger against system play due to the lottery

    killing all the trees in the world for use as paper for lottery bet slips, no, that would disrupt his

    $6.00 a week lottery habit   He is protecting the less informed by showing how our systems will

    put the unsuspecting simpleton in the poor house, good one jimbo, smooth way of trying to make

    yourself seem important while calling everyone else ignorant.

    RL

    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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      RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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      Posted: October 10, 2014, 12:49 am - IP Logged

      Peer

      I think your on to something, I have always thought that jimbo gets paid to trash up the place. 

      While a system or method may not pose much of a threat played by a few it could be damaging

      if played on a large scale for a single game.   No system IMHO will ever produce the winning

      numbers on demand but many can give the player options to play smarter.  I don't understand

      why a person would make such effort just to try and overthrow something like that.  What a waste

      of time, after all, most agree, time is money.

      RL

      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

      USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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        Posted: October 10, 2014, 4:29 am - IP Logged

        Despite a few things that we disagree on, overall, I agree. What you wrote in the quote above pretty much surmises what my signature so succinctly details.

        I don't agree with Todd that it's just a bunch of double-speak. 

         

        What I'd wish to agree on is that the p-3 games shouldn't be put under the same scrutiny as Major JP game wins. It says it all in my sig. That doesn't hold true for the p-3 game. The odds may still be very bad in the p-3, but eons better to win smaller tier prizes than a Major JP win chance, which is like....Naught. Green laugh.

        Thanks onlymoney.  Dig up some of my Pick-3 simulations and backtests.  Notice how significant numbers of [simulated] people came out ahead of the game over years of playing Quick Picks.  This should help you to understand how you've come to view Pick-3 in a different way than large matrix games.

        RL-RANDOMLOGIC says, "By your own words you suffered all the same fallacies up until a few years ago when you read some book."

        There's only one thing worse than someone who purposely obfuscates another's posts - someone who LIES while they do it.  I wonder if these "same fallacies" are the ones he continues to suffer from today?

        I hope Mr RANDOMLOGIC enjoyed his multi-post rant and that he's ready to get back to his Digit System research.

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          Posted: October 10, 2014, 7:59 am - IP Logged

          Jimbo

          There's only one thing worse than someone who purposely obfuscates another's posts - someone who LIES while they do it. 

          Then why don't you stop.

           

          Are you telling onlymoney that there is a method to win at pick-3 or are you just saying he can win more

          than playing QP's.  If it's yes to the first part then does this mean the game can be predicted to the level

          that a person can do better than the odds suggest?  If not then why mention it because the person will

          wind up loosing it all back over time, that is according to your previous post.   

           

          Just to be sure are you saying you never made that comment to me about becoming enlightened when

          you found the truth so to say?????  Think hard before you answer.  A simple yes or no will suffice.

           

          Oh, just so you know, I only work on the lexie digits now.

          RL

          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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            Posted: October 10, 2014, 8:16 am - IP Logged

            Thanks onlymoney.  Dig up some of my Pick-3 simulations and backtests.  Notice how significant numbers of [simulated] people came out ahead of the game over years of playing Quick Picks.  This should help you to understand how you've come to view Pick-3 in a different way than large matrix games.

            RL-RANDOMLOGIC says, "By your own words you suffered all the same fallacies up until a few years ago when you read some book."

            There's only one thing worse than someone who purposely obfuscates another's posts - someone who LIES while they do it.  I wonder if these "same fallacies" are the ones he continues to suffer from today?

            I hope Mr RANDOMLOGIC enjoyed his multi-post rant and that he's ready to get back to his Digit System research.

            OK jimmy....I am sorry.... but now I hate you too.  > LOL   But, for a different reason.

            That darn book that you mention in your signature is a killer. "The theory of Gambling and Statistical Logic"   It hurt my face attempting to read that book at least so far.  LOL

             

             OK... I admit some of the history was good......and I did enjoy some other parts. Like now.....because I am a "Gambler" Epstein says.....I can now claim to be a "Godfather of Probability!" according to him. Which really dresses up my other normal title of just a  ....."Pick 3 Player"       Very nice...  LOL 

             I was disappointed to find out I wasn't the first person to discover the break through differences between ...."dependent and independent events" ! Imagine being beat out by that French guy..what's his name......oh yeah...Pierre Fermat.

            Now we can dress up the joint because according to Epstein ...."Gamblers can claim to be the first to use concrete applications to probabilistic methods" and that sounds a lot better than ...."trying to break even."  LOL

             

             P.S.

             I did have a couple of real questions. Is your PM box full or something because they won't go through.   

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              OK jimmy....I am sorry.... but now I hate you too.  > LOL   But, for a different reason.

              That darn book that you mention in your signature is a killer. "The theory of Gambling and Statistical Logic"   It hurt my face attempting to read that book at least so far.  LOL

               

               OK... I admit some of the history was good......and I did enjoy some other parts. Like now.....because I am a "Gambler" Epstein says.....I can now claim to be a "Godfather of Probability!" according to him. Which really dresses up my other normal title of just a  ....."Pick 3 Player"       Very nice...  LOL 

               I was disappointed to find out I wasn't the first person to discover the break through differences between ...."dependent and independent events" ! Imagine being beat out by that French guy..what's his name......oh yeah...Pierre Fermat.

              Now we can dress up the joint because according to Epstein ...."Gamblers can claim to be the first to use concrete applications to probabilistic methods" and that sounds a lot better than ...."trying to break even."  LOL

               

               P.S.

               I did have a couple of real questions. Is your PM box full or something because they won't go through.   

              This exorcism shouldn't take long.

              We'll start with selected readings from Robert Donnally's Complete Idiot's Guide to Statistics with follow ups blips from Deborah Rumsey's Statistics for Dummies while you sit in a circle of lottery tickets.

              In rare/extreme cases, we may be forced to read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. 

              However, should you ever lapse and ask the Fisher-Price brain a real question, there is no hope.

              G

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                Posted: October 10, 2014, 11:33 am - IP Logged

                Any new systems based on Facts and Stats????


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                  Any new systems based on Facts and Stats????

                  Yes, there are 720 singles in the p-3, pick the correct combo for a straight hit. Green laugh

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                    Any new systems based on Facts and Stats????

                    Sure, there are plenty of them but with the slight advantage they give a player only those willing to spend a lot of money can take advantage of them.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      TIME IS MONEY AND UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES

                      rcbbuckeye:
                      Maybe you might be the person to remember [and agree] that I've repeatedly pointed out that there are multiple line Lotto "strategies" that do, in fact, allow you to affect the "distribution" of your winnings.  Nobody seems to want to talk about that fact.

                      Since most agree that "Time Is Money," when I show people how they can free up a lot of their time by buying Quick Picks, am I not "helping" them win more?  Remember, the time they save wth QPs and the money they save not buying "system" software can be used to buy more tickets.

                      BTW, no need to feel sorry for me.

                      WIN D:
                      Thanks.  Smile

                      "I've repeatedly pointed out that there are multiple line Lotto "strategies" that do, in fact, allow you to affect the "distribution" of your winnings."

                      Gail Howard, Robert Serotic, and others wrote books about "multiple line lotto strategies" or the more commonly called "wheels" 30 years ago and though I dislike saying it again, you're telling us something we already know. I don't recall your participation, but several of us had lengthy discussions on the user friendly LP wheels.

                      "Since most agree that "Time Is Money," when I show people how they can free up a lot of their time by buying Quick Picks, am I not "helping" them win more?"

                      Now you sound like a late night infomercial pitchman telling us how much money we can save house cleaning by making only 6 easy payments of $99.95 for your product. Most stores won't take "call bets" and ask players to fill out play slips, but they will print QPs when asked. And again, we all know it's much easier to ask a clerk for a QP than filling out play slips with personal picks.

                      Do want a "how about that" for showing people how they can free up time or an "atta-boy"?


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                        Don't you guys ever get tired of trying to discredit everything I say here?  You've been at it ever since I started posting in 2010.  Some of your attempts are so pathetic that you appear desperate at times.  If I had the time and motivation, I could dig up numerous examples of your posts (esp S47) that quote something I wrote, but then, respond with something inappropriate or completely unrelated.  (See the quoted post above.)

                        Let's see, garyo1954, Stack47, RL-RANDOMLOGIC.  Since you seem compelled to read my posts, why not save us all some time and look back at your earlier team efforts.  Maybe you'll get some ideas for future attacks.

                        This looks like a good place to start...

                        When you get tired of that thread, try this one for a break.

                        CF was spot on when he said,
                        "My first introduction to the people that frequent Lotto forums was back in 2003 when I discovered some were actually giving a few numbers for the next draw in a 6/49 Lotto game. ie from some 14 million possibilities they had narrowed it down to a handful. Needless to say I regarded them as fruitcakes but thankfully they are not taken as seriously by the lesser fruitcakes these days. Some sadly live in a time warp where any crap that piles on their dung heap of ignorance is warmly received and enlightened information which shows it up is ignored. Yes, according to them the Sun still revolves around the Earth.

                        "Generally, Forums on the Web are a mixed bunch and if allowed are usually taken over by a bunch of nincompoops which dissuades any possible serious contributor from participating."

                        P.S.  If you just can't get enough of my work to reexamine, try this one...

                        Yes, CF WAS spot on!
                        "Generally, Forums on the Web are a mixed bunch and if allowed are usually taken over by a bunch of nincompoops which dissuades any possible serious contributor from participating."

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                          Yes, CF WAS spot on!
                          "Generally, Forums on the Web are a mixed bunch and if allowed are usually taken over by a bunch of nincompoops which dissuades any possible serious contributor from participating."

                          Since this forum is "taken over by a bunch of nincompoops" and there is no chance for serious participation here, I'd strongly suggest you leave this website and not return, and track down a suitable website that encourages serious participation from individuals such as yourself.

                          If you stay and keep posting, I will assume your message I quoted above was either a lie or a joke, because I know that you would never want to participate on a forum that has been "taken over by a bunch of nincompoops".

                           

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                             So funny when you notice ...if you toss out a verygeneric word in sort of a general way like......  "nincompoop" you can actually offend several people. 

                             

                             You have to admit...it's a pretty silly willy sounding term really. Even then ....it's funny when certain ones actually rise up in a huff ......and actually self identify themselves by doing so.  LOL 

                             

                             Cracks me up when the nincompoop's are the only ones that  become offended.  LOL 

                             

                             Now, before anyone can say anything .... I will  have you know my Mother was a nincompoopLOL

                             

                             

                            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                   Win d    

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                              WIN D

                              I guess it depends on who's using it and the intent.  I wonder if it's a genetic trait.

                              RL

                              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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