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Do you believe every combination has the same probability?

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amber123's avatar - OpIFNim

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Posted: September 30, 2016, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

"you wouldn't dare step into a casino if they pulled it !!"

How many times must you be told "there is no casino" doing that stuff coming from your imagination?

How many times must I remind you that If they did implement the same rules, you wouldn't bothering going? But you are okay with the lottery doing it. 

Face it, you are a hypocrite and hide behind the imaginary casino. You already answered no, so everyone already knows you need help.

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    Posted: September 30, 2016, 10:34 pm - IP Logged

    Does the American Citizenship lottery process (without a sponsor) use an RNG? The thought literally just came to me, so didn't even look it up yet.

     

    Can you imagine the RNG programmer running pre tests. Green laugh

    Singles and families who been waiting for years to have a chance to enter this great country look at the pre test results, and they are shocked by what they see. Their name was in one of the upwards of 5+ pre tests. Now they have to wait all over again. 

    Funny, in every other scenario, the lottery's bad behavior rules would never fly, yet we have somewhat intelligent people like stack47, coin toss, and KY Floyd struggling to understand this. My brain hurts sometimes, no kidding!

    It's almost as If the bulb will never go on until it affects them personally. 

     

    Never perfect, just common sense and persistence. I will make this my signature....ha

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      While I think it's fair to say that both sides have valid arguments for and against these procedures, is it not in the interest of healthy debating to offer more than one side on an issue or topic? While I have listened to both sides with equal fairness, I don't believe that everyone here has as well. For that reason I no longer consider this to be a healthy debate. Just a stomp stomp stomp discussion where the only things being said are, I'm right, You're wrong. This is not the political stage ladies and gents. 

      All the best to everyone.

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        Posted: October 1, 2016, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

        While I think it's fair to say that both sides have valid arguments for and against these procedures, is it not in the interest of healthy debating to offer more than one side on an issue or topic? While I have listened to both sides with equal fairness, I don't believe that everyone here has as well. For that reason I no longer consider this to be a healthy debate. Just a stomp stomp stomp discussion where the only things being said are, I'm right, You're wrong. This is not the political stage ladies and gents. 

        All the best to everyone.

        Let me say this. Do you not think if the Florida Lottery would have published these rules and explained the procedures to the public, things would be different? It was if they were trying to hide these pre-tests from the public. These are the very people without whose support, the lottery would not exist.

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          How many times must I remind you that If they did implement the same rules, you wouldn't bothering going? But you are okay with the lottery doing it. 

          Face it, you are a hypocrite and hide behind the imaginary casino. You already answered no, so everyone already knows you need help.

          "Hiding behind an imaginary casino"?................LOL

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            Posted: October 1, 2016, 12:55 pm - IP Logged

            Let me say this. Do you not think if the Florida Lottery would have published these rules and explained the procedures to the public, things would be different? It was if they were trying to hide these pre-tests from the public. These are the very people without whose support, the lottery would not exist.

            Yes obviously each player looks at the games differently first. So there would be varying opinions. The game however is the game. If you want to play, it has to be by the rules of the game. Probability and randomness are principles of the game and not perfectly understood topics second.

            If I were playing and following how I normally do, and I saw a lot of my numbers that came up in the pre-tests, but did not come up in the official, then Yes! I would have a lot to gripe about, or take issue with officially. But speaking as a player who plays in a state that does not publish any pre-tests, I can only chalk up any losses that I may have to the ideas and principles of the game itself, i.e. randomness versus probability. That Is all I have to base any opinions on.

            I do feel there is enough to argue that pre-testing affects the timing of the draw, which in turn can affect a players profits.

            Much respect to you Carbob, I know you have been on LP for a while and you have discussed many things and understood many things over the years. Along with LuckyLoser you both have been around for a while on LP. We all as players just have to find ways around all this nonsense in order to win.

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              Posted: October 1, 2016, 1:19 pm - IP Logged

              I won't waste my time trying to find the exact quote, but you said something like "the natural flow of random". It shouldn't be necessary to for me to say the random ball drawings are chaotic, nothing natural about it. Your entire argument is based on something that doesn't exist.

              The only answer to the "Do you believe every combination has the same probability?" question is don't play if you believe the drawing is fixed. All these imaginary reasons belong in the Mystical Forum.

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                Posted: October 1, 2016, 2:04 pm - IP Logged

                "Hiding behind an imaginary casino"?................LOL

                Yeah, you hide because you don't want to face the truth. You debate others in the other forums all the time about hypothetical situations like, what If i won, what house would I buy, or what car, these people actually believe they will win the JP, all hypothetical, or other subjects that are all hypothetical, you have no issue debating them about it.

                You are just a coward. You know you're a hypocrite, stop denying, everyone saw your posts.

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                  Posted: October 1, 2016, 2:08 pm - IP Logged

                  I won't waste my time trying to find the exact quote, but you said something like "the natural flow of random". It shouldn't be necessary to for me to say the random ball drawings are chaotic, nothing natural about it. Your entire argument is based on something that doesn't exist.

                  The only answer to the "Do you believe every combination has the same probability?" question is don't play if you believe the drawing is fixed. All these imaginary reasons belong in the Mystical Forum.

                  If you think the pre-tests don't influence the draws, why do you think they keep them private? If they don't influence the draws, they have nothing to hide.Texas publishes their draws. Maybe Texas is a little more honest the Florida.

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                    Posted: October 1, 2016, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

                    I won't waste my time trying to find the exact quote, but you said something like "the natural flow of random". It shouldn't be necessary to for me to say the random ball drawings are chaotic, nothing natural about it. Your entire argument is based on something that doesn't exist.

                    The only answer to the "Do you believe every combination has the same probability?" question is don't play if you believe the drawing is fixed. All these imaginary reasons belong in the Mystical Forum.

                    You belong in the psycho-nutcase forum. Unfortunately LP doesn't have one.

                    I wouldn't expect you to understand anything about natural flow of anything, because there is nothing natural about your thinking, it's bizarre and moronic. People like you who think they've got it all figured out belong in a Sanitarium. Crazy

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                      Posted: October 1, 2016, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

                      If you think the pre-tests don't influence the draws, why do you think they keep them private? If they don't influence the draws, they have nothing to hide.Texas publishes their draws. Maybe Texas is a little more honest the Florida.

                      Maybe other states don't publicize their pre draws because of the uproar some players would be in knowing such information.. knowing and seeing information like that I could see as having an impact on the player.. I'm sure it is someone's job to test the equipment and another to announce the official draw results.. If you believe lottery employees work only 30 seconds a day for a check is unbelievable.. They may not intentionally be trying to dirsupt random but it is someone's job at the same time.. I would vote in favor of lotteries not to publicize pre-draws because of the effect on players.. We wish the state just rolled out balls for 30 seconds everyday with no procedure.. yea me too but reality...

                      Creativity..

                      " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

                      Million dollar operation 

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                        Posted: October 1, 2016, 3:28 pm - IP Logged

                        https://www.lotterypost.com/news/307210

                        Maybe other states don't publicize their pre draws because of the uproar some players would be in knowing such info

                        Texas set a sales record . people must be really upset.

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                          Posted: October 1, 2016, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

                          a little late...but yes I do think every combo has the same probability 

                          that is the only hope I have to warrant my playing the same numbers each and every draw...

                          One of these days mine will hit....hopefully before I die

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                            Posted: October 1, 2016, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

                            In the following link, please read lotterybraker's commentaries very closely. In his second post on Page 1, he specifically talks about disrupting the natural order of things with pre-tests...and he's dead onYes Nod. Also, note the lack of rebuttals to lotterybraker from two other 'main characters' who are duped by the system...not a word. For anyone to assert that what happens in between draws doesn't matter, enroute to selecting another group of numbers/combo, is someone I have a system forCheers

                            https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/153319/3

                            Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                            There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                            #lotto-4-a-living

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                              Posted: October 1, 2016, 8:47 pm - IP Logged

                              Pick a set of numbers for the week track em and see how close you get ..

                              the official draws for that week will be like your pre tests (same odds)

                              if you do or don't hit within a week it's fair game.. up for debate

                              Creativity..

                              " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

                              Million dollar operation 

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