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Carbob and grwurston comment, you lecture; big difference. Won't speak for KY Floyd, but I don't give you much credibility.

Green laughGreen laughLOLROFL Yep, and the three of us are all still saying the same darned thing...same premiseLOL. So, if I don't get much credibility, then I'm in very good companyParty...and I'll gladly accept that. But, since he's pretending to be quite the smart guyNo Nod saying that I 'lecture', it seems he's been responding to every single one of my lectures in this thread...and still is. In fact, Stack's FIRST RESPONSE ON PAGE 2 TARGETED ME. Then, after I had dropped it a couple of pages back and wrote it off and went on to respond to a post by eddessaknight regarding Advantage Players, he decided to challenge that LECTURE as wellWhat?. 4th post down on Page 22 contains a substantive comment  from me with a link. He knew or knows nothing about Advantage Players but, needed to put me and my lecture in placeLOL. Basically, since Page 2, he's been responding to someone he doesn't give much credibility to but, he plead no contest to everyone else saying the same thing...and not a single word about lotterybraker's commentary. Let's give him another chance to slam lotterybraker:

http://lotterypost.mobi/thread.aspx?td=1127115

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/152731

 

 

 

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

#lotto-4-a-living

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    I wish I could afford an authentic lottery machine, a VAULT, and a live streaming feed of the machine within the vault. Also a guard watching the live feed of the machine inside the vault.

    I'd prove to all of you suckers who don't get it, how my predictions would improve by a nice margin. No tests, no nothing. After the draw, I take the balls and insert them back into the tubes. No post tests (which really makes me laugh, they were present during the drawing, do they think a ghost came by and affected the machines?..lol), just put the machine into the vault and go the eff home!!!!!!!!!!...

    The next day I ask the guard If he noticed anything out of the order. I mean seriously, do you doubters actually think there could be a group like the mission impossible people who are hanging from the ceiling, risking their freedom by tricking a high end security guard company with all their safeguards, check points, and redundancies in place, and that's why he officials won't take this route, but prefer man handling the machines for 12 hours a day, wearing them down to the knuckles, and then scratch their heads why the machines broke down before it's time? 

    If all their efforts don't send a red flag screaming bloody murder, then I'm dealing with a bunch of ape men living in caves. When all they have to do is what I wrote in my first and second paragraphs as the solution. 

    Amber,

    I use to chat with a poster on the Expert Lottery forum, can't remember his name. He had a Lottery Ball machine. LOL You reminded me of him.

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      I wish I could afford an authentic lottery machine, a VAULT, and a live streaming feed of the machine within the vault. Also a guard watching the live feed of the machine inside the vault.

      I'd prove to all of you suckers who don't get it, how my predictions would improve by a nice margin. No tests, no nothing. After the draw, I take the balls and insert them back into the tubes. No post tests (which really makes me laugh, they were present during the drawing, do they think a ghost came by and affected the machines?..lol), just put the machine into the vault and go the eff home!!!!!!!!!!...

      The next day I ask the guard If he noticed anything out of the order. I mean seriously, do you doubters actually think there could be a group like the mission impossible people who are hanging from the ceiling, risking their freedom by tricking a high end security guard company with all their safeguards, check points, and redundancies in place, and that's why he officials won't take this route, but prefer man handling the machines for 12 hours a day, wearing them down to the knuckles, and then scratch their heads why the machines broke down before it's time? 

      If all their efforts don't send a red flag screaming bloody murder, then I'm dealing with a bunch of ape men living in caves. When all they have to do is what I wrote in my first and second paragraphs as the solution. 

      amber, here's a very telling link from February 2014. grwurston, eddessaknight, destinycreation, and others are present sharing very similar views back then. Likewise, there are those few that felt otherwise. I don't quite agree with every aspect of the assessments here but, the overall idea of lotteries' practices should be questioned. You know, lots of people aren't even aware of how rotating the tubes affects things. However, one of my old buddies named joker17, from when I was Matchmaker, fully understood what it did to a player's approach to creating a combo list. Not sure what happened to him but, the second link contains his commentary. In the first link, pay close attention to grwurston's exchange with some guy named 'Chip' who was apparently a lottery employee. 'Chip' completely bowed out of the conversationLeaving when grwurston posed him with the same question about a number showing up too many times in pre-tests like they do in official drawsIdea. In the second link, joker17 found pre-tests as suspect, and, he then went on to tie in tube rotation to even more suspicionYes Nod on Page 2. It's also worth noting that in my same basic assessment in the first link on the Page 2, there's no rebuttal from yours truly. 

       

      https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/272681/2

      https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/204555/2

       

       

      Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

      There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

      #lotto-4-a-living

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        How many times have you said "I'm done" only to come back with more childish insults?

        It wasn't meant to be an analogy so stop acting like a spoiled child brat and let the adults discuss adult stuff.

        For an adult, you certainly don't think like one. Awww, did I hit a nerve by calling you out on your crap? LOSER!!!!!!!

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          "I believe in the Butterfly effect to an extent."

          And believe in a magical "natural random flow", and apparently in the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny too. You'll find all that stuff in the Mystical Forum. Instead of constantly saying empty gestures like "I'm done", do it, sit back and read; you might learn something.

          Learn from you?..aaahha ahahhaha aahha, now that's funny. The only think I learned from you is that Humans are dumber than I thought they were, you and your two other lame brained fools already proved that to me.

          You don't care that lotteries pull that crap, but you wouldn't dare step into a casino if they pulled it !!

          HYPOCRITE!

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            Don't take this as straight up fact but it is near the truth. Casinos have microchips in the slot machines that do prevent winners. And I fail to see how anyone is believing that the lottery is doing anything to hurt a players chance of winning on purpose. It does not matter what they do, because a winning number will still be drawn in the end with the official draw. You "three" as we're now calling each other are stuck in looking in the past, instead you should be looking ahead into the future. How to do that, well that's for you to figure out. Good luck

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              You guys and gals want a biased system to begin with and you're complaining because the Lottery commissons are taking that away from you. Well answer that for yourselves.

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                For an adult, you certainly don't think like one. Awww, did I hit a nerve by calling you out on your crap? LOSER!!!!!!!

                Why do keep saying "I'm done" and then add more of the same old nothing?

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                  Learn from you?..aaahha ahahhaha aahha, now that's funny. The only think I learned from you is that Humans are dumber than I thought they were, you and your two other lame brained fools already proved that to me.

                  You don't care that lotteries pull that crap, but you wouldn't dare step into a casino if they pulled it !!

                  HYPOCRITE!

                  "you wouldn't dare step into a casino if they pulled it !!"

                  How many times must you be told "there is no casino" doing that stuff coming from your imagination?

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                    Don't take this as straight up fact but it is near the truth. Casinos have microchips in the slot machines that do prevent winners. And I fail to see how anyone is believing that the lottery is doing anything to hurt a players chance of winning on purpose. It does not matter what they do, because a winning number will still be drawn in the end with the official draw. You "three" as we're now calling each other are stuck in looking in the past, instead you should be looking ahead into the future. How to do that, well that's for you to figure out. Good luck

                    I thought it was common knowledge that casinos slots are set to payout the jackpot after a target quota is reached.. I dont own a casino so I wouldn't know exactly how true the theory is.. If so is this considered tampering or disrupting? Or do only fools place slots? Or does the player still have an equal chance at the jackpot when they sit down to play? The most I ever thought the lottery could do to prevent winners is something like this.. In this case pre tests maybe fairly similar in the expected outcome of the procedures put in place..

                    Creativity..

                    " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

                    Million dollar operation 

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                      I thought it was common knowledge that casinos slots are set to payout the jackpot after a target quota is reached.. I dont own a casino so I wouldn't know exactly how true the theory is.. If so is this considered tampering or disrupting? Or do only fools place slots? Or does the player still have an equal chance at the jackpot when they sit down to play? The most I ever thought the lottery could do to prevent winners is something like this.. In this case pre tests maybe fairly similar in the expected outcome of the procedures put in place..

                      Never heard of that, urban legend perhaps. 

                      When I was in Vegas there were several bars that joined a combined video poker jackpot  (like the Mega Millions slot machines, when any machine in the network was played the jackpot went up for all the participating bars.) 

                      Then one day someone complained that no one had ever hot a royal for the jackpot after a long time, the Nevada Gaming Board stepped in and found out those machines were programmed never to hit a royal.

                      The bars didn't get in trouble but the route operator sure did.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        Never heard of that, urban legend perhaps. 

                        When I was in Vegas there were several bars that joined a combined video poker jackpot  (like the Mega Millions slot machines, when any machine in the network was played the jackpot went up for all the participating bars.) 

                        Then one day someone complained that no one had ever hot a royal for the jackpot after a long time, the Nevada Gaming Board stepped in and found out those machines were programmed never to hit a royal.

                        The bars didn't get in trouble but the route operator sure did.

                        Cool story.. Im no computer programming expert but I don't think it would be too hard to program a slot to withhold the jackpot until the casino is ready.. Does anybody know the probability of winning a jackpot on  a slot machine? Are there probabilities with slot machines? I've played certain slots for entertainment but usually stay away from them when I take trips to the casino.. I've noticed the prizes are larger when you wager more..

                        Creativity..

                        " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

                        Million dollar operation 

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                          Cool story thanks for sharing. 

                          There's a guy I saw on a TV show, his name is Earnest Cobb. He calls himself the slot machine guru. He claims to have won over $10M on slot machines. He also says that he's spent over $3M to get that $10M, I think I recall. Still worth it IMO. Pretty cool story. I'm so glad this conversation is going in another direction at the moment.

                          Casino odds offer much better favor than lottery odds. The reason they do this though is because it's much faster paced than the lottery. So players fall victim to tempting thoughts etc. In the end the Casino's end up on top. Which is why they don't care about the odds I would think.

                          Someone who buys a lottery ticket waits hours or days before the results are in. The lottery is just not gonna give away money that easily and that quickly IMO

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                            Cool story thanks for sharing. 

                            There's a guy I saw on a TV show, his name is Earnest Cobb. He calls himself the slot machine guru. He claims to have won over $10M on slot machines. He also says that he's spent over $3M to get that $10M, I think I recall. Still worth it IMO. Pretty cool story. I'm so glad this conversation is going in another direction at the moment.

                            Casino odds offer much better favor than lottery odds. The reason they do this though is because it's much faster paced than the lottery. So players fall victim to tempting thoughts etc. In the end the Casino's end up on top. Which is why they don't care about the odds I would think.

                            Someone who buys a lottery ticket waits hours or days before the results are in. The lottery is just not gonna give away money that easily and that quickly IMO

                            Casino odds offer much better favor than lottery odds. The reason they do this though is because it's much faster paced than the lottery. So players fall victim to tempting thoughts etc. In the end the Casino's end up on top. Which is why they don't care about the odds I would think.

                            Someone who buys a lottery ticket waits hours or days before the results are in. The lottery is just not gonna give away money that easily and that quickly IMO

                            Yup. The main difference is the variety of games and different gameplay speeds and expected profits a player can make based on the odds of the games offered. A casinos money comes in much faster and much more constant at a casino. The state lotteries are much more conservative IMO in their wait times in between draws and not being able to play every game all day 24/7. Both have specific reasons for their procedures. Between the two entity's there must be clear reason on their end on why they do things the way they do as far as odds and specific rules for each game slot machines,poker,baccarat,roulette etc... I have found interesting that some casinos limit how much you can wager at roulette,baccarat or blackjack.. when from my understanding Las Vegas is much different. There are differences in the state lottery vs 'privately' owned casinos if im correct.. Are most casinos privately owned?

                            Creativity..

                            " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

                            Million dollar operation 

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                              Why do keep saying "I'm done" and then add more of the same old nothing?

                              Why do you keep making a fool out of yourself?

                                 
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