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Predicting winning numbers? Fact or fiction?

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Do you REALLY think it is possible to predict winning numbers?

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garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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I'm tellin ya garyo1954..

You've said a mouthful..!!.. I've seen a lot of things discussed on LP that I've never encountered before to be honest, but, I'll go investigate to become abreast of the matter..

There was even a reply from a member who posted an assumption of my wish to turn a jackpot win to cocaine and hookers.!!..LOL..sounds like he should lay off the "white lightning"..!!

Thanks to my thick skin, I wish all blessings to the naysayers with a smile.. then keep moving on..let them argue with the painted sign..!

Thinking about that 100 day challenge, I'm surprised no one has jumped in to point out there would be no way to win playing 50,000 numbers a night for 100 draws. The MIT student played as much as $500,000 a draw on the roll down game (sometimes without winning) so it shows just how hard these games are to predict and win.

 

If you have something that works, no matter what anyone says, you're ahead of the curve.

Still might be an interesting test.



The biggest improvement you'll ever make in the odds of winning is buying a lottery ticket. With just one ticket the odds go from IMPOSSIBLE to IMPROBABLE!

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    Thinking about that 100 day challenge, I'm surprised no one has jumped in to point out there would be no way to win playing 50,000 numbers a night for 100 draws. The MIT student played as much as $500,000 a draw on the roll down game (sometimes without winning) so it shows just how hard these games are to predict and win.

     

    If you have something that works, no matter what anyone says, you're ahead of the curve.

    Still might be an interesting test.



    I agree.. it is a daunting task..!!...but I believe I could accomplish it.. well depending on the type Game...but with those Bluskov wheels?... yea.. with the help of Probability Math,... and of course no hanky panky out of the Lottery Officials.. Yea.. It can be done with THAT kind of money...!!

    ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

    These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

    The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

     to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

    ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

      garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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      I agree.. it is a daunting task..!!...but I believe I could accomplish it.. well depending on the type Game...but with those Bluskov wheels?... yea.. with the help of Probability Math,... and of course no hanky panky out of the Lottery Officials.. Yea.. It can be done with THAT kind of money...!!

      I think it could be done. I don't know the size group it would take (for a 5/35).
      I did a rewrite to simplify things which changed the sets (and possibly the whole idea). 

      Still not sure this could be called a prediction.
      On one hand it could offer a clue as to a feasible amount necessary to win a jackpot; on the other, the pattern could change and, uh......stuff happens.

      In any case, it would be a way of eliminating quite combinations before making a daily prediction.

      I'll give it some thought and look it over, but sometimes its easier to just do it than to continue to sift through data trying to prove or disprove an idea. (We already have enough lumberjacks running 'round in here to tell us we can't cut that tree down cuz there's another tree in the way.)

      They haven't figured out a chainsaw will cut that other tree too!

      G

      The biggest improvement you'll ever make in the odds of winning is buying a lottery ticket. With just one ticket the odds go from IMPOSSIBLE to IMPROBABLE!

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        I think it could be done. I don't know the size group it would take (for a 5/35).
        I did a rewrite to simplify things which changed the sets (and possibly the whole idea). 

        Still not sure this could be called a prediction.
        On one hand it could offer a clue as to a feasible amount necessary to win a jackpot; on the other, the pattern could change and, uh......stuff happens.

        In any case, it would be a way of eliminating quite combinations before making a daily prediction.

        I'll give it some thought and look it over, but sometimes its easier to just do it than to continue to sift through data trying to prove or disprove an idea. (We already have enough lumberjacks running 'round in here to tell us we can't cut that tree down cuz there's another tree in the way.)

        They haven't figured out a chainsaw will cut that other tree too!

        G

        LOL... I like your analogy..!!  That's funny.. but to the point..!!

        ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

        These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

        The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

         to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

        ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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                               Here's a Powerball ticket..

                            The winning numbers were

                                  16-20-37-44-62 (12)

          Had 3 of the winning numbers 16,20,37 on the same ticket, while being 1 digit away from having a 4th correct number on the same ticket, "61"(underlined green) instead of "62".

          First time playing in awhile... But as usual, everytime I play it... Someone wins elsewhere... 1 winning ticket sold in Wisconsin again..!!  $768.4 Million.data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAI=

          ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

          These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

          The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

           to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

          ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

            garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                                 Here's a Powerball ticket..

                              The winning numbers were

                                    16-20-37-44-62 (12)

            Had 3 of the winning numbers 16,20,37 on the same ticket, while being 1 digit away from having a 4th correct number on the same ticket, "61"(underlined green) instead of "62".

            First time playing in awhile... But as usual, everytime I play it... Someone wins elsewhere... 1 winning ticket sold in Wisconsin again..!!  $768.4 Million.data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAI=

            If you're always off by one, you can outsmart the Lottery Security Squad by playing one up and one down. One $768 Million dollar payday will make you forget all about that measly $30!

            G

            The biggest improvement you'll ever make in the odds of winning is buying a lottery ticket. With just one ticket the odds go from IMPOSSIBLE to IMPROBABLE!

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              If you're always off by one, you can outsmart the Lottery Security Squad by playing one up and one down. One $768 Million dollar payday will make you forget all about that measly $30!

              G

              Right..!! I'm working on that solution as we text..    That's what I mean when I talk about "thinking outside the box"..!!.. 

              I've come to call the phenomenon the ole " 1 digit away disease"..!!.. It seems that it only plagues me.

              ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

              These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

              The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

               to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

              ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

                garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                Right..!! I'm working on that solution as we text..    That's what I mean when I talk about "thinking outside the box"..!!.. 

                I've come to call the phenomenon the ole " 1 digit away disease"..!!.. It seems that it only plagues me.

                LOL! Had a disease similar.
                Doctor called it, "wrong game disease!"

                G

                The biggest improvement you'll ever make in the odds of winning is buying a lottery ticket. With just one ticket the odds go from IMPOSSIBLE to IMPROBABLE!

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                  Different predictors do different things. We all have our own way making the game fun, challenging and rewarding. I say do what works and what you can afford to do. If that's only playing a few combos at a time or many combos then more power to you. I like to go by results. I just know I have a 87% accuracy rate in my thread. What kind of accuracy is acceptable to prove that the lottery can be consistently predicted?

                  I only predict for states with use truly random mechanical lottery ball machines because my stats in computer states was less than 36% accuracy rate for 8 months straight.  That's enough reason for me to never use them again. I don't trust them and after researching more about states that use computer random number generators I don't see how anyone would trust them. I did a little commentary on a article I found here on lottery post that some may find interesting.

                  Read to learn why true lottery drawings should be important to you as a player and then sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings.

                  As mentioned in the article by Lottery Director Jack Ross, "Hoosier Lottery reserves the right to limit the selection of certain numbers," it does so to limit the lottery's liability in a particular drawing, Ross said. If too many people play the same number, and that number is chosen by the lottery, the lottery could have to pay out far more than it takes in. To be able to do that, of course -- and to know where winning tickets are sold -- the lottery's computers must keep track of the numbers played by the public." "It's a business decision, but I can't tell you off the top of my head what the limit is," he said. This means they, without a doubt, know in advance what numbers are being chosen the most and they have the right to limit the selection of those numbers so they can make more profit. How can you know this is happening and still play in states that use computer random number generators.

                  I'm sure mechanical lottery ball machines can be manipulated but I just seriously doubt it.

                  Correct me if I'm wrong but the predictors board seems to calculating the combos at $1 per combo instead of .50 per combo.

                  Just because you feel ok don't be a spreader of COVID-19 . Don't risk killing or getting your own family, friends, and strangers sick by not wearing a mask and taking precautions just because you don't feel like it. ELEMENTIS REGAMUS PROELIUM to all my fellow chemical soldiers.

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                    My God it is good to see you back here bro! I thank God that you're OK and still doing your workouts. You brought back good ol' memories when we talked to each other... it has been so long - can't really remember how many years.

                    I'll PM you again soon! May God bless you GF and always take care of you!

                    We'll talk again soon! I promise you bro!

                    I'd rather ask for forgiveness instead of permission

                    6/49 dis(assembly)

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                      Different predictors do different things. We all have our own way making the game fun, challenging and rewarding. I say do what works and what you can afford to do. If that's only playing a few combos at a time or many combos then more power to you. I like to go by results. I just know I have a 87% accuracy rate in my thread. What kind of accuracy is acceptable to prove that the lottery can be consistently predicted?

                      I only predict for states with use truly random mechanical lottery ball machines because my stats in computer states was less than 36% accuracy rate for 8 months straight.  That's enough reason for me to never use them again. I don't trust them and after researching more about states that use computer random number generators I don't see how anyone would trust them. I did a little commentary on a article I found here on lottery post that some may find interesting.

                      Read to learn why true lottery drawings should be important to you as a player and then sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings.

                      As mentioned in the article by Lottery Director Jack Ross, "Hoosier Lottery reserves the right to limit the selection of certain numbers," it does so to limit the lottery's liability in a particular drawing, Ross said. If too many people play the same number, and that number is chosen by the lottery, the lottery could have to pay out far more than it takes in. To be able to do that, of course -- and to know where winning tickets are sold -- the lottery's computers must keep track of the numbers played by the public." "It's a business decision, but I can't tell you off the top of my head what the limit is," he said. This means they, without a doubt, know in advance what numbers are being chosen the most and they have the right to limit the selection of those numbers so they can make more profit. How can you know this is happening and still play in states that use computer random number generators.

                      I'm sure mechanical lottery ball machines can be manipulated but I just seriously doubt it.

                      Correct me if I'm wrong but the predictors board seems to calculating the combos at $1 per combo instead of .50 per combo.

                      yea, the dude from the Hoosier Lottery was more than likely talking about cash3 and Cash4 games... Which is predominantly why I've posted that they are monitoring the daily progress.. the case I cited was here in Georgia, where around 2:30 or so in the afternoon, I heard the Store's clerk say to a lottery customer that the State was no longer accepting his chosen digits... which says.. They are watching..!!.. but NOT as in watching anyone's persona...!!

                      My gripe is when they decided when , where, who wins the MM. & PB games , by doing the same concerning those games...

                      ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

                      These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

                      The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

                       to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

                      ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

                        garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                        Setting liabilities protects the player as well. As much as anything the run on 911 in 2002 NY after the Sept. 11 events the year prior pointed out the need for liability. Thousands of $500 tickets were paid out. Couple of months later in Jersey, 20 thousand tickets were sold with the numbers 587 since it was the number of a flight that crashed nearby. Each expected a windfall.

                        Each received less than $20 for their trouble.

                        It doesn't bode well for the health of the game when states pay out millions each draw. There is a limit to what they can pay out and continue to offer the game. And once it continues to cost more to pay winners than to operate, it's done. So the biggest reason for limiting the numbers of tickets sold on any number is to make sure you don't end up with what you think is a $500 winner only to learn you won $20. Think how disappointed you would be holding what appeared to be $5000 in winning tickets and come home with $200!

                        G

                        The biggest improvement you'll ever make in the odds of winning is buying a lottery ticket. With just one ticket the odds go from IMPOSSIBLE to IMPROBABLE!

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                          Here's 2 Back to Back drawings of the  same Game..

                                       The winning numbers were;

                             Mon  JBL. 1-12-15-18-33-46..11/19/18

                             Thur  JBL. 8-17-28-31-39-47..11/22/18

                          Had 4 correct numbers,12,15,33,46..for Monday's play ..another result of a Bluskov wheel...

                          Had 3 correct numbers (2 sets) 8,17,31..Thursday's play..and of course the ole " 1 digit away disease", "29" instead of 28...

                          Working on a cure for it..Probability Math works..!.. Some mistake it for Statistics, but they aren't the same thing.. Statistics is a record of what has ALREADY happened... Probability Math measures, predicts what's likely ABOUT to happen, based on the current state of conditions..

                          The back to back "painted signs" confirms it..!

                          Now, if I can just get a grasp on this concept of ball positioning, nontraditional skips..etc... I might just break through the glass JaCkPoT ceiling..!!

                           

                          ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

                          These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

                          The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

                           to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

                          ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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                                                      Here's a MM Ticket

                                                   MM. 10-24-28-33-38 (6)

                            Had 2 correct mainballs + the Megaball on ticket C,.. ticket D has 1 correct mainball + the Megaball..

                            Ticket 2B has 3 correct mainballs.. So, predictions can be done...Math doesn't lie.. because it can't..!!

                             

                            ...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

                            These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

                            The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

                             to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

                            ...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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                              Here's 2 Back to Back drawings of the  same Game..

                                           The winning numbers were;

                                 Mon  JBL. 1-12-15-18-33-46..11/19/18

                                 Thur  JBL. 8-17-28-31-39-47..11/22/18

                              Had 4 correct numbers,12,15,33,46..for Monday's play ..another result of a Bluskov wheel...

                              Had 3 correct numbers (2 sets) 8,17,31..Thursday's play..and of course the ole " 1 digit away disease", "29" instead of 28...

                              Working on a cure for it..Probability Math works..!.. Some mistake it for Statistics, but they aren't the same thing.. Statistics is a record of what has ALREADY happened... Probability Math measures, predicts what's likely ABOUT to happen, based on the current state of conditions..

                              The back to back "painted signs" confirms it..!

                              Now, if I can just get a grasp on this concept of ball positioning, nontraditional skips..etc... I might just break through the glass JaCkPoT ceiling..!!

                               

                              "Thursday's play..and of course the ole " 1 digit away disease", "29" instead of 28..."

                              KY has a "1-Off" option on their Pick-3 and Pick-4 games and that applies to the two digits plus or minus of the played digit. We can play a pick-3 number for $1 and get that number for the 50 cent straight payoff and get a $9 to $29 payoff depending on how digits are "1-Off" on the other 26 combos. And the pick-4 has 80 "1-Off" combos and one 50 cent straight for $1. 

                              In a 6/47 lotto game there are 723 "1 digit away" and that's if you play just six numbers. While it is very frustrating when a number one digit higher or lower is drawn, statistically it's no different than any other number being drawn.

                              At the end of the day it's how you choose your numbers and close ones in count in horseshoes and grenades.

                                 
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