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Are pre-draws corrupting your lottery strategy ?

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There are no facts and no data that supports the idea that pre-test draws affect the outcome of the official draw.

Comparing 3000 (Texas Day) draws vs the 12000 pretests, that is comparing the 4 pre-test draws against the official draw, a straight will hit in the pre-test that will come back as the official draw approximately once every 290 draws. Say once a year. 

A box hit will occur about every 52 days, or 6 times a year. Looking at the chart posted a couple of days ago you can see where a box hit TWICE in the pre-test and the same three digits were drawn as the official draw. 60% of the draws that night were comprised of three numbers!

Comparing 3600 (Texas Evening) draws to 14000 pre-tests, straights hit about once every 300 days. Once a year?

A box hit will occur about every 48 days, again, about 6 times a year.

Statistical advantages are built over a period of time. They are not found in a 5 mere draws. So adding 4 draws to the data you already have would be a drop in the bucket. In most cases the change would be less than .001%.

The fact that the pre-test digits do come back in the official draw proves the pre-tests have no affect on the outcome of the official draw.

Has anybody seen any facts or data that shows anything different?

So does this mean that you are using pick3 software?

Would this also mean youre winnning tons of money ?

I bet youve lost more money while using pick3 software than without simply because you think its giving you an edge when in reality it isn't.

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    So does this mean that you are using pick3 software?

    Would this also mean youre winnning tons of money ?

    I bet youve lost more money while using pick3 software than without simply because you think its giving you an edge when in reality it isn't.

    Discussion is to present facts.

    I presented facts.

    Do you have any facts to the contrary?

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      Youre only worried about my commentary effecting the sales of your program and like i said before i never started this thread to bash you personally..... you just happened to but in.

      You didnt see my answer to boney about the 1/1000 odds either for a straight played combination, did ya ?

      Are you going to refute those facts ?

      The facts are there are no missing structures in your program or any other for that matter because you do not have all the data to run an accurate analysis with.

      State run lotteries dont give a ratsss azzzz what kind of pick3 software that people use to crack the system with because they know that none of it works and hidden data is the main weapon in their arsenal

      Sales of my program? C'mmon dude, you can do better than that.

      Oh, you presented facts? Where exactly was that, i and everybody else must have missed that post.

      Do you even comprehend the difference between structures and 1 single number?

      "The facts are there are no missing structures in your program..."

      In my program, missing structures?
      Last time i checked i am not running any lottery.

      Say, tell me, have you already send a complain email to Microsoft?
      There are lots of people here that enter the draws into an excel worksheet and write functions to it.
      Now, the worksheet will present results depending on what is the input.
      Ouch, Excel spits out 'wrong' results, according to you.
      It is time to hold Microsoft responsible for this... Confused

      And have you alreade told Todd that he should pull out the lucky system(s)? Have you told Todd his drawhistory might as well be deleted because it is wrong data?
      No, you don't dare, do you... It's easy to attack but never come up with even 1 fact, isn't it... Bed

       

      But yet again you just walk away from what i have presented.
      I have presented real data, real numbers, real statistics, not just some words. Facts.
      Where are your facts? Just post them, i will gladly admit when i  see i was wrong somewhere.

      Just point out, in my last post with the statistics on the data, where the data is corrupt and fixed and the pre-draws mess up everything. And don't forget to tell everyone here why it is messed up and corrupt! I guess after 12000 views on this thread alot of people are waiting on your facts... so come on, just show it to everyone here!!!
      And most important, as i have stated in that post. I will post real data, real statistics, but not mention the states, and for someone like you, who is saying all you are saying, it should no problem to pick the states that are RNG and the states that are machine ball games. Right?

      Should be a very easy task for you, yet you are not doing it... must someone really wonder why you just keep avoiding that? Naughty

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        combos from the pre draw showing in the official draw is just a small issue. also, you're just doing one state, Texas, there are many other states that may show different results. that part is only but a fraction of the concerns. the main issue is using those pre draws to track patterns and trends. you keep bringing in stats that have nothing to do with the issue.

        also, puarths never addressed the issue i brought up about his stats which didn't take into account the ball set rotations and machine rotations, which he has no access to anyways, so all these charts and stats are useless.

        there are many other states that may show different results

        Ah? Really?

        It would be nice not only to say this, but to show this. But that is where your problem is, isn't it... back up what you are saying with data, not really your strongest quality...

         

        LOL man, ball set rotations!!!

        You can't even post an answer on the data i have presented and here you go, setting another flag/milestone!!  Roll Eyes

        What's next? The weather at the moment of the draw? The position of the moon? LOL

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          Discussion is to present facts.

          I presented facts.

          Do you have any facts to the contrary?

          Facts? From crow?

          That's the real question, isn't it... i give you on a contract you can keep waiting until your beard hits the earth, perhaps even the dinosaur will walk the earth again before that happens... that just won't happen, a fact...

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            there are many other states that may show different results

            Ah? Really?

            It would be nice not only to say this, but to show this. But that is where your problem is, isn't it... back up what you are saying with data, not really your strongest quality...

             

            LOL man, ball set rotations!!!

            You can't even post an answer on the data i have presented and here you go, setting another flag/milestone!!  Roll Eyes

            What's next? The weather at the moment of the draw? The position of the moon? LOL

            garyo shoed one state, texas, but i don't have the ability to do every state, and it doesn't matter. you only read what you want to read. i said that missing combos showing up in the official draw is not MY biggest concern but a concern nevertheless, despite the low occurence. i also wrote that the MAIN issue was having the pre test data to get a better grasp of the trends and patterns.

            paying attention what someone writes isn't YOUR srtongest quality.

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              If pre-draws mess up strategy, this would mean, it is inherent to it per definition, the statistics of structures would show this. So when you have a strategy that uses structures, you are scr.w.d... according to some...

              I could just write "no, not true", or "yes, very true" and be on my way.
              Or, i could show data collected from different "games" and compare the data to see which side i should pick.
              This is usually how scientist do it. They don't just say "the moon is 100 miles away" and another says "no, the moon is 1000000 miles away".
              To find out how far the moon is, they will measure the distance and come to a conclusion based on that data, based on facts.


              Any given structure is "created" with a set of numbers. For example the HHH pattern will have 125 numbers (straight).

              Ideally, this structure should show itself in the draws once in every 8 draws. Whenever a number with only high digits comes in, this is a HHH.
              This means the Mathematical Average skip can be used to observe if the Real Average skip is far off. In a "fixed" game this would show, in real life when you throw a coin, from which each side has a Mathematical Average skip of 2, you will find one side will sometimes fall several times in a row before the other side falls. No one is fixing behind your back or when you blinked, it is just the way it is.

              This goes for any structure there is. Some structures have 125 straight numbers, others have for example 27 numbers (OSS OpenStraightStraight)

               

              If pre-draws mess up, this would mean this would be shown in the statistics.

              Below is a grid of some straight structures: HighLow, OddEven, DigitSort (LMH), OpenClosedStraight, LMH structured numbers (L:0, 1, 2 and M: 3, 4, 5, 6 and H: 7, 8, 9) and InOut.

              The first column show the (short)name of the structure, the second column shows the Mathematical Average skip.

              In this grid you will find the following "states"
              Texas midday - real draws: these are the draws on which you can bet
              Texas midday - Pre-draws: these are the draws on which you can not bet, they are held before the real draw
              Texas midday - Pre-draws + real draws: a combination of both the real draws and the pre-draws.
              New Jersey evening draws (for the last 10 years only) : New Jersey is a ball machine game
              California Evening draws (for the last 10 years only) : California uses a RNG (Random Number Generator, or simply put, a computer)
              RNG 3570 draws: This is not a real state, it has draws that were created using my own Random Number Generator (just the same as you can find here at LP)

              For each of these "states" the grid shows how many times a structure has "hit", and the RealTime average skip has been calculated.

              Up to you to compare the data, compare average skips, and come to your own conclusion.
              No hocus pocus here, just facts!

               

               

              ..Texas middayNJ Eve (last 10 years)CA eve (last 10 years)RNG 3570 draws (10 years draws)
              ..Real drawsPre-drawsPre-draws and real draws......
              Straight statsMath Av skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skip
              HHH83887,8310117,4613997,574088,754268,384717,58
              HHL83808,9298,1213098,094088,754707,64418,1
              HLH83458,819268,1512718,334487,974138,654527,9
              LHH84067,499268,1513327,954428,084487,974398,13
              LLL83608,448908,4812508,474857,364707,64268,38
              LLH83808,9447,9913247,995216,864677,654497,95
              LHL84017,589617,8513627,774148,634767,54418,1
              HLL83798,029597,8713387,914468,014028,894517,92
              EEE84017,589398,0413407,94567,834887,324847,38
              EEO83558,569018,3812568,434967,24567,834567,83
              EOE83937,739647,8313577,84018,914068,84737,55
              OEE83648,359787,7213427,894537,894637,714198,52
              OOO83598,479447,9913038,124487,974298,334168,58
              OOE83808,9557,913357,934118,694248,424368,19
              OEO83937,739038,3612968,174218,484328,274477,99
              EOO83947,719627,8413567,814867,354747,544398,13
              LMH7,693598,479268,1512858,244458,034308,314448,04
              LHM7,694097,439258,1613347,934308,314398,144278,36
              MLH7,693648,358538,8512178,74507,944438,064607,76
              MHL7,693618,428868,5212478,494058,824627,734268,38
              HLM7,693428,899298,1212718,334328,274098,734028,88
              HML7,693917,779088,3112998,153869,254428,084248,42
              LLH18,1813023,3834921,6247922,119118,714324,9815423,18
              LHL18,1813722,1834621,8148321,9214824,1415323,3515423,18
              HLL18,1813223,0233622,4646822,6215822,6116421,7816321,9
              LHH18,1814121,5532023,5846122,9616321,9113227,0617320,64
              HLH18,1813722,1834721,7548421,8715323,3516721,3913726,06
              HHL18,1811027,6334521,8745523,2616921,1415023,8116721,38
              OCS27,7711725,9727827,1439526,811231,8912628,3512528,56
              OSC27,7710429,2226928,0537328,3815523,0512827,9113227,05
              COS27,7710728,427227,7437927,9312827,9113426,6611431,32
              CSO27,7710927,8829925,2440825,9410932,7713726,0713626,25
              SOC27,7712025,3326628,3738627,4212927,6913027,4812428,79
              SCO27,7710728,424530,835230,0712229,2812827,9114225,14
              OOO37,047639,9919538,727139,0610434,359438,9238,8
              OOC27,779332,6829425,6738727,3513925,711331,6113726,06
              OCO27,7711426,6627027,9538427,5714724,313227,0611930,
              COO27,779233,0329425,6738627,4214524,6311730,5312129,5
              OOS37,048535,7520936,1129436,9039,698144,19238,8
              OSO37,047242,2119139,5126340,2510235,0210334,688542,
              SOO37,047441,0720037,7327438,638940,1310434,359238,8
              CCC15,6319615,5146616,1966215,9922216,0922216,0924614,51
              CCO20,8313622,3537320,2350920,815323,3516521,6518319,51
              COC20,8316418,5337220,2853619,7516022,3318819,17820,06
              OCC20,8315020,2636520,6751520,5517420,5318419,4117720,17
              CCS20,8316118,8833722,3949821,2617620,317919,9617021,
              CSC20,8312923,5635121,548022,0516621,5217120,8920417,5
              SCC20,8315319,8636620,6251920,3915822,6117320,6516421,77
              SSS37,046745,3619937,9226639,7911231,8910534,027746,36
              SSO37,047540,5221934,4629436,10833,0711132,1810932,75
              SOS37,048734,9318939,9327638,3510135,378442,527150,28
              OSS37,048237,0619838,1128037,89537,69836,4511331,59
              SSC27,7711426,6628926,1140326,2713127,2710434,3513526,44
              SCS27,7713023,3826928,0539926,5312728,1313326,8610534,
              CSS27,7712524,3127127,8539626,7311830,2712827,9112728,11
              LMH27,7711127,3826128,9137228,4514025,5112329,0414424,79
              LHM27,7712624,1230224,9942824,7311531,0612428,8112728,11
              MLH27,779731,3325429,7135130,1613925,712827,9112628,33
              MHL27,7712723,9325329,8338027,8611531,0615523,0513726,06
              HLM27,778535,7526128,9134630,5914025,5110932,7710534,
              HML27,7710828,1427727,2438527,4910334,6811630,7913127,25
              LLL37,047441,0719239,326639,7910135,3710035,729836,43
              LLM27,7711925,5424730,5536628,9214424,8113227,0611132,16
              LML27,7710429,2224730,5535130,1612728,1314524,6311431,32
              MLL27,7712624,1228026,9540626,0712827,9113825,8813127,25
              LLH37,048137,5220536,8128637,0111531,069836,4511930,
              LHL37,049831,0122633,3932432,679836,458840,5910833,06
              HLL37,048635,3419339,127937,948741,0610733,389139,23
              MMM15,6318216,749415,2867615,6622515,8823715,0722715,73
              MML20,8312723,9336720,5649421,4319818,0416321,9115822,59
              MLM20,8312823,7436220,8549021,616921,1416222,0516921,12
              LMM20,8314221,435421,3249621,3419218,617520,4116721,38
              MMH20,8314021,7138819,4552820,0517820,0716321,9116521,64
              MHM20,8314920,437220,2852120,3215622,918519,3115622,88
              HMM20,8315120,1338819,4553919,6415622,916821,2617520,4
              HHH37,048734,9319139,5127838,088343,049139,259637,19
              HHL37,047838,9621634,9429436,10733,389139,259238,8
              HLH37,048237,0621135,7629336,1310035,729238,839338,39
              LHH37,049133,419438,928537,148542,0210035,729836,43
              HHM27,779233,0327227,7436429,0810633,712827,9114324,97
              HMH27,7712723,9326628,3739326,9312428,8114125,3313227,05
              MHH27,7712125,1227327,6439426,8714125,3311331,6115722,74
              III83648,359717,7713357,934308,314687,634458,02
              IIO83478,769767,7313238,4677,654078,784338,24
              IOI83628,49517,9313138,064308,314368,194218,48
              OII83728,179787,7213507,844477,994507,944338,24
              OOI84107,419098,313198,034468,014318,294078,77
              OIO83957,699108,2913058,114298,334917,274727,56
              IOO84087,458978,4113058,114737,554527,94687,63
              OOO83817,989547,9113357,934507,944378,174917,27

               

              Let's say i would have removed the name of the "states", is anyone out there that could tell wich "state" is which?

              Anyone claiming the pre-draws mess up everything should be able to do so, since they make a claim the data is corrupt, biased, name it... based on ... yes, based on what?

              Just in case crow or somer missed this post lol

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                garyo shoed one state, texas, but i don't have the ability to do every state, and it doesn't matter. you only read what you want to read. i said that missing combos showing up in the official draw is not MY biggest concern but a concern nevertheless, despite the low occurence. i also wrote that the MAIN issue was having the pre test data to get a better grasp of the trends and patterns.

                paying attention what someone writes isn't YOUR srtongest quality.

                garyo shoed one state, texas, but i don't have the ability to do every state

                Oh, i'm sorry you don't have the ability to do every state. I have. And it takes me about 1 second to get it for each state using that evil software!  And i have posted data about different states, perhaps you missed it Sleep

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                  Facts? From crow?

                  That's the real question, isn't it... i give you on a contract you can keep waiting until your beard hits the earth, perhaps even the dinosaur will walk the earth again before that happens... that just won't happen, a fact...

                  why don't you address the point i brought up about your stats? your data doesn't account for the ball set rotations and the machine rotation schedules whcih you don't have access to anyways, so your numbers are erroneous and don't mean a thing.

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                    garyo shoed one state, texas, but i don't have the ability to do every state

                    Oh, i'm sorry you don't have the ability to do every state. I have. And it takes me about 1 second to get it for each state using that evil software!  And i have posted data about different states, perhaps you missed it Sleep

                    look above this post.

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                      why don't you address the point i brought up about your stats? your data doesn't account for the ball set rotations and the machine rotation schedules whcih you don't have access to anyways, so your numbers are erroneous and don't mean a thing.

                      dude, are you even reading what i write? Or are you just not understanding it?

                      I can give you stats on states where the ball rotations are included! Guess what, the stats stay the same!

                      But next you'll want the weather conditions included, then the position of the moon at the time of the drawing, then you'll ask to take into account December 21 this year, when all the planets are alined and this will affect gravity on this planet, heck, someone like you might even say that the nearest star affects the drawings, next one can read from you is that the Andromeda nebula is not in a correct position...

                      you just gotta be kidding man... Jester Laugh

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                        If pre-draws mess up strategy, this would mean, it is inherent to it per definition, the statistics of structures would show this. So when you have a strategy that uses structures, you are scr.w.d... according to some...

                        I could just write "no, not true", or "yes, very true" and be on my way.
                        Or, i could show data collected from different "games" and compare the data to see which side i should pick.
                        This is usually how scientist do it. They don't just say "the moon is 100 miles away" and another says "no, the moon is 1000000 miles away".
                        To find out how far the moon is, they will measure the distance and come to a conclusion based on that data, based on facts.


                        Any given structure is "created" with a set of numbers. For example the HHH pattern will have 125 numbers (straight).

                        Ideally, this structure should show itself in the draws once in every 8 draws. Whenever a number with only high digits comes in, this is a HHH.
                        This means the Mathematical Average skip can be used to observe if the Real Average skip is far off. In a "fixed" game this would show, in real life when you throw a coin, from which each side has a Mathematical Average skip of 2, you will find one side will sometimes fall several times in a row before the other side falls. No one is fixing behind your back or when you blinked, it is just the way it is.

                        This goes for any structure there is. Some structures have 125 straight numbers, others have for example 27 numbers (OSS OpenStraightStraight)

                         

                        If pre-draws mess up, this would mean this would be shown in the statistics.

                        Below is a grid of some straight structures: HighLow, OddEven, DigitSort (LMH), OpenClosedStraight, LMH structured numbers (L:0, 1, 2 and M: 3, 4, 5, 6 and H: 7, 8, 9) and InOut.

                        The first column show the (short)name of the structure, the second column shows the Mathematical Average skip.

                        In this grid you will find the following "states"
                        Texas midday - real draws: these are the draws on which you can bet
                        Texas midday - Pre-draws: these are the draws on which you can not bet, they are held before the real draw
                        Texas midday - Pre-draws + real draws: a combination of both the real draws and the pre-draws.
                        New Jersey evening draws (for the last 10 years only) : New Jersey is a ball machine game
                        California Evening draws (for the last 10 years only) : California uses a RNG (Random Number Generator, or simply put, a computer)
                        RNG 3570 draws: This is not a real state, it has draws that were created using my own Random Number Generator (just the same as you can find here at LP)

                        For each of these "states" the grid shows how many times a structure has "hit", and the RealTime average skip has been calculated.

                        Up to you to compare the data, compare average skips, and come to your own conclusion.
                        No hocus pocus here, just facts!

                         

                         

                        ..Texas middayNJ Eve (last 10 years)CA eve (last 10 years)RNG 3570 draws (10 years draws)
                        ..Real drawsPre-drawsPre-draws and real draws......
                        Straight statsMath Av skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skipTimesAv. skip
                        HHH83887,8310117,4613997,574088,754268,384717,58
                        HHL83808,9298,1213098,094088,754707,64418,1
                        HLH83458,819268,1512718,334487,974138,654527,9
                        LHH84067,499268,1513327,954428,084487,974398,13
                        LLL83608,448908,4812508,474857,364707,64268,38
                        LLH83808,9447,9913247,995216,864677,654497,95
                        LHL84017,589617,8513627,774148,634767,54418,1
                        HLL83798,029597,8713387,914468,014028,894517,92
                        EEE84017,589398,0413407,94567,834887,324847,38
                        EEO83558,569018,3812568,434967,24567,834567,83
                        EOE83937,739647,8313577,84018,914068,84737,55
                        OEE83648,359787,7213427,894537,894637,714198,52
                        OOO83598,479447,9913038,124487,974298,334168,58
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                        Let's say i would have removed the name of the "states", is anyone out there that could tell wich "state" is which?

                        Anyone claiming the pre-draws mess up everything should be able to do so, since they make a claim the data is corrupt, biased, name it... based on ... yes, based on what?

                        Here, somer, just in case you missed it... again... post your comments on this, make us proud! US Flag

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                          dude, are you even reading what i write? Or are you just not understanding it?

                          I can give you stats on states where the ball rotations are included! Guess what, the stats stay the same!

                          But next you'll want the weather conditions included, then the position of the moon at the time of the drawing, then you'll ask to take into account December 21 this year, when all the planets are alined and this will affect gravity on this planet, heck, someone like you might even say that the nearest star affects the drawings, next one can read from you is that the Andromeda nebula is not in a correct position...

                          you just gotta be kidding man... Jester Laugh

                          again, you don't read correctly. right after you put up the stats, i said what you think is the ideal way to determine whether the stats are good or not is not a universal one. your checkpoints might not be someone else's qualifying factors.

                          you have access to ball set rotations and machine rotations, really? what state gives out that info? I'd really love to know.

                          and even if you have that info, once again, i can't for the life of me see how you can prove how I  USE the pre test info is not beneficial. what's beneficial to you may not be to me, or joe schmo, or anyone else. Get IT?

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                            Here, somer, just in case you missed it... again... post your comments on this, make us proud! US Flag

                            again, those are your templates of what you think passes as proof of no change. I don't use highs and lows and evens and odds, and whatever else you have in there.

                            for you to paint a complete picture, you'd have to do a back test of what a given person may use as their strategy, not yours. Your was is NOT the universal method of how others may examine numbers...CAPICHE ?

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                              again, you don't read correctly. right after you put up the stats, i said what you think is the ideal way to determine whether the stats are good or not is not a universal one. your checkpoints might not be someone else's qualifying factors.

                              you have access to ball set rotations and machine rotations, really? what state gives out that info? I'd really love to know.

                              and even if you have that info, once again, i can't for the life of me see how you can prove how I  USE the pre test info is not beneficial. what's beneficial to you may not be to me, or joe schmo, or anyone else. Get IT?

                              Machine rotations? Look up Texas one more time dude... and you know, they are not from other planets, some actually answer emails Big Grin Angel

                               

                              Checkpoints?

                              Hey, don't blame me for mathematics.

                              Have you sent an email to the universities yet?

                              You should, they will be glad to hear mathematics & statistics they teach is totally wrong...
                              And don't worry if they ask for proof, they wont. No doubt they will just accept your word on it! Eek

                               

                              what's beneficial to you may not be to me, or joe schmo, or anyone else. Get IT?

                              So, what kind of mathematics do you use then? Enlighten us please.
                              How should i understand this?
                              Let me try:
                              In a pick3 game there are 1000 straight numbers. Let's take a structure of 50 straight numbers. In my world this means their mathematical average skip is 20 draws (my math is easy, just divide 1000 by 50, and that gives 20)
                              What does your math say about such things? Cheers

                              Or:
                              I go into a store, i buy product A and product B and i pay = (Price of product A) + (Price of product B)

                              For you it is different? You use another type of math? How much do you pay for product A and (or? if? if then else? Switch? Logical OR? Logical AND?...) product B? Shocked

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