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Are pre-draws corrupting your lottery strategy ?

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Posted: January 12, 2012, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

Give it up homie youve been debunked..

Crow, calm down... Every state has pretest draws..

After reading quite some time in time forum... I fead one thing that makes me think you are all full of hot air and just like to stir up things...

There are 999 different pick 3 numbers.. There for the odds of hitting an exact numbef off a sgraight bet is 1 in a 1000

You also said in a different post somthing about the never drawn list in nc... U said it was almost impossible for all combinations to not hit by now,  but i would like for u to prove me wrong and then i will give u all the credit you want....

Step 1... Find a state where pick 3 is played and show me where every number hit in ever possiblee way and the time frame from when the lottery started...

I can almost promise you every number didnt hit i. Every possible combination within 5.3 years...

5.3 years is the total time the nc pick 3 lottery has been in business... Find me a state where it happened less than 5 years

Here are results for all states.

As you will see, the states where all the straights have hit, show an amount of draws it has taken before all 1000 had shown up in straight format.
This amount circles around 5474 and 6557 draws draws.

Another thing you might notice, is that whenever a state reaches total draws of 5000, the less numbers are left unhit (straight format)

Note : There's nothing special about this, but when you have a state with enough draws, meaning at least 8000 or so, you do not have to start with the first draw to make these calculations, you can even start at draw 1500 or so, the results will always be pretty much the same. (i will not post all those lists or it will take 50 pages here lol)

StateNameStateResultRemainingDrawsCountedTheNumbers
AR (E)Remaining straights464760001 002   005 010 014   015 019 024   027 029 030   034 035 036   039 040 047   048 051 053   056 059 060   065 066 069   070 073 074   075 078 080   082 084 085   086 088 089   092 093 096   098 101 102   106 109 110   113 120 122   124 126 127   128 131 133   134 135 136   137 138 139   140 141 147   149 152 153   154 155 159   161 162 165   171 172 173   174 178 180   187 188 189   194 196 197   198 199 201   207 209 210   212 213 216   217 220 224   225 226 227   228 229 232   233 234 235   236 238 240   242 245 249   251 252 253   257 260 267   268 274 276   277 284 285   286 288 292   294 295 296   298 299 301   303 306 311   313 314 317   318 319 321   322 323 326   328 329 332   335 336 337   340 341 342   343 346 347   349 355 356   358 360 361   362 363 364   368 369 370   371 372 376   377 384 385   387 388 389   390 391 396   399 401 403   406 408 410   415 416 417   421 422 426   430 432 434   435 436 438   440 441 442   443 447 448   449 451 454   456 458 460   462 464 468   469 470 473   474 480 481   486 490 491   494 496 498   499 500 501   503 504 507   510 513 517   519 526 527   528 529 530   531 532 534   538 539 540   543 544 548   552 554 556   558 559 562   564 565 567   569 573 576   579 580 581   582 585 588   589 594 596   597 600 602   605 606 607   609 610 617   618 621 622   623 624 625   626 628 632   633 635 636   637 639 640   641 642 643   644 645 647   649 651 652   653 654 655   658 660 662   664 666 667   670 672 676   678 679 681   685 687 693   694 695 696   698 699 700   701 702 707   708 709 710   713 715 716   717 721 725   731 732 733   734 736 737   739 743 745   746 752 753   754 759 761   762 763 766   767 771 772   776 777 782   791 792 793   794 795 796   797 800 801   802 803 804   806 808 812   814 815 817   818 819 821   822 825 827   828 829 830   831 832 833   834 835 839   841 845 853   854 855 856   861 863 864   865 867 869   870 872 877   881 883 884   891 898 899   902 905 911   912 914 917   921 922 928   929 930 931   933 934 935   937 942 943   947 949 950   955 956 959   966 967 969   971 974 975   976 977 978   981 984 986   989 990 991   992 995 996   997 998 999 
AR (M)Remaining straights528652000 001   002 005 008   012 013 015   016 020 022   023 028 029   030 032 033   036 037 040   041 042 044   046 047 050   051 052 058   059 060 061   062 063 065   067 069 072   074 080 084   085 086 088   090 091 093   095 096 099   101 102 103   105 108 109   110 112 113   114 115 116   117 119 120   121 123 127   128 133 138   141 147 150   153 154 156   159 160 161   162 164 168   169 175 176   180 181 182   183 186 187   189 193 194   195 198 199   200 202 204   206 207 208   209 210 214   215 217 219   221 224 225   226 229 230   231 233 234   236 237 239   240 243 244   245 246 247   249 250 251   252 254 256   258 259 261   262 263 265   266 267 269   272 277 278   280 285 286   287 291 294   295 298 300   302 304 309   311 312 314   315 319 320   321 324 326   328 330 331   333 334 335   336 338 340   342 344 345   346 347 348   349 353 354   356 359 360   362 363 369   375 376 379   382 384 385   386 388 390   391 394 395   396 397 400   401 405 406   407 410 412   413 414 418   424 426 428   430 433 434   435 438 441   442 444 447   451 452 456   457 458 459   461 462 463   464 465 467   468 469 470   474 476 477   479 480 482   485 488 489   490 491 493   496 497 499   500 506 508   510 516 518   519 520 521   523 525 526   528 529 530   531 532 533   535 537 538   541 544 547   553 554 555   556 557 558   559 560 561   563 564 566   570 571 572   573 574 576   578 580 581   583 585 587   588 589 590   591 592 594   595 597 601   603 608 609   611 612 618   619 621 622   623 624 625   626 628 629   630 631 632   636 637 640   641 644 647   648 649 650   652 654 655   656 659 662   663 664 667   668 669 670   671 673 674   676 677 678   680 681 685   686 690 691   693 695 698   699 701 702   704 705 707   708 709 710   712 714 715   718 719 721   724 726 732   733 734 735   736 737 738   741 742 743   744 752 755   756 757 758   759 760 761   763 765 766   767 770 771   772 773 776   777 779 780   781 783 785   787 790 791   793 794 795   796 799 802   804 806 807   808 809 811   812 813 814   815 818 819   821 822 824   826 830 832   833 834 839   840 842 843   844 846 851   854 855 857   858 859 860   862 863 864   865 866 870   871 873 874   882 893 894   895 896 897   898 901 903   905 908 910   911 912 913   914 915 916   917 918 920   921 922 925   927 928 929   933 934 935   936 938 942   945 947 948   949 950 952   956 957 963   966 967 968   972 973 975   977 980 984   985 986 990   991 993 995   999 
AZ (E)Remaining straights164221010 199   243 264 295   337 353 442   488 534 549   596 602 622   624 797 
Belgium (E)Remaining straights702792006 016   023 024 030   040 049 082   104 105 132   136 151 172   187 193 205   206 208 215   230 260 280   282 291 303   310 318 334   336 348 355   374 385 390   411 415 439   464 477 484   531 532 548   574 577 610   613 631 645   658 677 678   679 707 736   782 804 812   824 829 834   848 858 866   942 945 966   972 992 
CA (E)Remaining straights84937105 134   136 383 544   561 741 896 
CA (M)Remaining straights363357002 031   054 087 179   205 223 267   272 277 311   319 363 419   436 513 564   643 662 678   704 709 758   782 786 817   824 854 855   865 878 882   887 905 906   973 
CT (E)Remaining straights114934241 276   286 314 368   523 581 626   666 747 873 
CT (M)Remaining straights203998037 108   118 160 185   187 210 297   532 568 573   580 626 627   629 743 799   802 835 946 
DC (E)Remaining straights453298032 075   092 101 115   164 183 223   230 278 283   315 345 362   380 397 458   470 474 496   508 517 581   605 624 629   633 660 666   667 706 762   764 807 814   858 896 904   908 918 961   974 977 985   987 
DC (M)Remaining straights383298046 051   090 094 168   226 251 271   282 284 293   299 327 329   340 381 404   437 461 482   488 489 490   514 545 574   584 587 608   729 864 870   880 946 958   968 987 996 
DE (E)Remaining straights54773095   110 186 195   601 
DE (M)Remaining straights602822018 045   046 050 082   088 142 147   157 171 179   180 182 206   260 266 267   285 293 297   314 352 368   378 382 403   426 438 519   521 523 524   536 563 566   587 610 612   640 652 694   699 701 713   721 726 759   768 783 821   823 829 855   857 882 912   917 948 960   963 
FL (E)Remaining straights114937095 241   401 575 602   617 628 640   703 766 982 
FL (M)Remaining straights2561334000 001   007 008 009   011 017 018   022 024 031   032 034 040   043 048 049   050 051 057   061 062 064   069 085 090   094 104 117   119 122 124   126 127 128   130 138 142   152 158 162   168 169 171   174 178 188   196 199 203   211 212 220   222 231 236   241 245 247   254 258 261   273 275 276   281 283 290   291 296 298   301 302 304   305 321 344   345 347 350   355 356 362   369 370 375   377 378 380   389 392 397   402 403 407   422 428 430   434 435 437   441 442 444   447 453 470   472 474 478   483 489 490   491 492 500   510 517 518   520 526 527   532 535 546   554 555 557   564 568 571   575 576 580   581 582 588   590 591 593   594 596 600   602 603 610   615 620 625   633 635 641   642 645 646   647 649 651   660 667 672   675 678 686   688 693 694   704 705 708   709 715 720   724 726 728   745 746 749   751 752 753   755 760 766   771 776 778   782 783 788   789 790 791   795 797 805   807 808 811   812 813 815   817 823 824   826 838 840   842 845 847   848 855 858   859 860 863   868 873 876   877 879 893   894 896 898   901 908 909   915 919 921   925 926 928   930 934 936   941 942 947   949 950 954   958 961 969   970 971 976   979 980 985   986 991 
GA (E)All straights hit after 6557 draws06557 
GA (M)Remaining straights114528077 155   263 308 398   452 489 503   509 622 697 
ID (E)Remaining straights293655007 073   104 182 194   239 240 267   302 308 335   338 340 369   370 407 518   536 581 612   665 701 835   904 939 952   984 990 993 
ID (M)Remaining straights502695000 002   003 006 007   008 012 013   014 017 018   020 021 022   023 025 026   028 030 031   032 033 034   036 037 038   040 042 046   047 048 049   051 053 054   055 057 059   061 062 063   069 070 073   074 075 077   078 079 080   081 082 083   085 087 088   090 092 093   095 096 097   099 100 101   102 103 104   107 109 111   112 115 116   118 119 122   127 130 135   136 138 139   144 146 150   152 155 162   163 164 165   166 167 168   169 171 173   174 175 178   182 185 188   189 190 194   195 199 200   202 203 204   205 207 208   210 211 216   217 220 222   223 225 226   227 230 233   235 236 238   239 241 246   250 252 253   256 257 262   263 264 265   269 270 274   275 277 278   282 283 285   286 288 289   294 295 298   299 304 311   312 314 315   316 318 320   321 323 324   325 326 327   328 329 331   334 337 339   340 342 343   344 346 351   353 354 357   358 359 361   363 366 368   370 371 372   374 375 377   378 379 383   386 390 391   392 393 394   395 396 397   399 400 401   404 405 408   412 414 415   417 418 419   420 421 424   425 427 429   430 431 432   433 435 436   440 443 444   446 449 452   453 454 455   457 458 460   462 466 469   470 471 472   477 478 481   483 486 487   489 491 494   495 498 500   502 503 505   506 507 514   516 519 521   523 525 527   528 530 531   532 533 535   536 543 545   547 548 549   550 551 552   553 555 558   561 562 563   564 566 571   574 575 578   587 589 590   591 593 594   596 599 600   602 606 607   614 615 617   620 621 624   625 628 629   630 631 632   634 636 639   640 641 642   646 649 651   652 654 659   660 664 666   667 669 670   671 675 677   679 680 683   685 687 690   691 692 693   697 703 704   705 708 712   713 714 716   720 729 732   733 734 736   737 738 740   743 744 745   747 750 752   755 759 760   762 768 772   773 775 776   778 780 781   783 787 789   793 794 797   803 804 806   810 812 814   816 817 821   822 825 826   827 828 830   832 833 835   836 838 839   844 845 847   850 857 858   860 864 867   868 869 870   873 876 878   880 881 883   886 887 889   890 891 894   896 898 901   902 903 907   909 914 915   916 917 918   920 921 922   923 926 927   929 930 935   938 939 940   943 944 945   948 952 953   959 961 962   964 967 968   969 970 971   972 973 976   978 979 982   984 986 987   989 990 991   992 994 996   997 998 
IL (E)Remaining straights25461098 498 
IL (M)Remaining straights104788151 362   392 563 594   672 876 897   905 965 
IN (E)Remaining straights64931185   322 501 787   795 881 
IN (M)Remaining straights453257003 010   040 062 064   101 108 117   121 133 162   176 221 251   268 301 361   383 449 452   481 510 539   557 563 568   571 637 654   690 711 732   741 752 759   772 773 812   825 875 877   894 907 939   986 
KS (E)Remaining straights84881123 333   340 401 427   447 454 733 
KY (E)Remaining straights64933301   387 660 665   730 984 
KY (M)Remaining straights244008042 053   151 225 283   335 338 342   385 394 401   406 431 487   525 588 647   714 723 762   875 903 932   995 
LA (E)Remaining straights54904327   332 376 621   936 
MD (E)Remaining straights34885067 577 670 
MD (M)Remaining straights104631016 252   325 411 418   765 796 929   971 974 
MI (E)Remaining straights05821
MI (M)Remaining straights35189031 228 269 
MN (E)Remaining straights64884021   375 378 486   506 857 
MO (E)Remaining straights104937102 177   319 467 573   759 829 954   978 997 
MO (M)Remaining straights632727001 035   051 062 126   164 170 190   220 223 227   229 248 264   278 284 295   307 310 321   326 353 372   376 378 393   396 420 437   450 494 506   550 587 593   600 603 614   628 631 635   638 702 717   756 764 839   850 854 865   874 878 881   900 905 912   933 938 941   971 982 988   993 
NC (E)Remaining straights1411923017 035   040 054 055   056 072 085   087 091 094   101 103 106   107 108 121   122 147 152   170 175 199   209 216 221   235 239 252   253 254 260   275 283 284   290 299 304   310 313 317   318 339 343   386 392 396   413 415 421   449 451 455   464 466 475   492 509 513   528 529 537   538 546 550   557 563 565   569 580 586   590 592 597   604 608 610   615 621 626   627 633 634   638 642 645   653 666 669   675 684 688   690 695 703   707 714 716   718 727 732   741 744 746   747 754 759   762 772 773   780 786 799   800 804 827   831 836 852   859 862 863   867 893 898   900 909 913   921 930 935   941 945 947   956 965 980   986 989 993   998 
NC (M)Remaining straights2691232000 004   007 009 010   014 015 016   017 020 023   029 034 038   041 042 043   051 061 064   067 068 085   087 089 091   094 095 096   105 106 110   113 120 122   124 126 128   129 131 132   133 137 141   146 150 156   157 159 162   164 166 169   173 177 188   196 199 201   210 216 221   222 227 232   236 237 238   250 252 253   257 260 265   266 268 274   278 279 287   292 293 295   297 302 307   310 314 317   324 326 334   335 337 345   347 349 350   353 358 362   363 364 371   373 374 376   377 390 391   392 396 400   404 405 407   411 415 421   422 425 427   429 430 436   438 452 454   457 458 463   464 465 466   470 475 476   477 479 482   488 492 494   496 500 502   504 516 517   522 531 540   544 545 546   548 550 553   558 568 569   570 575 580   586 588 590   591 594 595   599 601 602   614 628 633   634 635 636   637 651 653   657 659 665   668 673 677   678 680 681   692 696 698   703 706 708   711 712 713   715 723 724   728 736 742   758 761 764   778 781 787   791 792 793   799 806 815   817 820 832   836 838 841   847 849 850   851 858 860   862 866 872   873 878 884   885 889 890   897 900 906   908 909 912   920 924 930   935 938 939   950 951 952   953 954 962   963 967 973   980 985 986   988 990 991   992 998 999 
NE (E)Remaining straights1192077003 013   017 027 029   041 043 055   063 064 069   074 082 085   088 095 117   130 132 137   146 156 163   169 173 197   215 228 233   269 276 281   283 286 288   303 308 323   329 335 338   348 350 352   360 372 396   401 425 435   447 452 457   463 469 473   479 484 487   499 504 512   520 521 527   528 535 539   540 543 564   566 586 595   602 606 614   615 618 623   629 644 689   723 724 730   735 739 740   742 745 749   750 753 764   765 777 784   786 799 801   813 814 837   842 849 852   854 882 883   913 927 936   952 976 985   986 990 997 
NJ (E)All straights hit after 5877 draws05877 
NJ (M)Remaining straights243703045 100   104 212 293   295 312 375   381 383 393   448 508 519   619 630 638   670 705 716   723 742 766   844 
NM (E)Remaining straights373562004 020   042 135 159   172 182 207   217 220 243   278 339 342   379 390 481   495 498 502   510 528 535   541 560 562   653 665 701   715 785 791   809 848 856   887 963 
NY (E)Remaining straights84925128 228   279 415 462   471 572 938 
NY (M)Remaining straights193684009 024   108 150 182   184 286 367   455 504 556   615 686 832   869 900 928   937 959 
OH (E)Remaining straights64468074   339 425 576   612 742 
OH (M)Remaining straights124122090 169   173 200 270   432 619 646   752 811 895   996 
OK (E)Remaining straights1062255010 023   026 038 052   060 062 066   072 075 089   090 106 120   134 148 161   174 189 197   203 209 215   219 226 239   243 252 269   274 280 288   299 309 319   343 344 364   367 371 382   384 393 397   403 410 419   423 426 441   454 460 479   480 491 496   507 542 548   550 555 562   563 565 569   584 594 597   600 624 659   662 663 665   676 677 679   697 704 718   739 745 752   772 773 803   806 817 841   844 848 856   862 866 869   873 889 895   922 930 933   937 946 948   950 967 
Ontario (E)Remaining straights183995047 255   262 298 312   322 401 482   662 707 740   758 811 871   878 904 955   960 
PA (E)Remaining straights84937098 121   199 390 398   636 707 843 
PA (M)Remaining straights453258016 020   043 078 102   115 205 209   213 242 264   319 325 366   387 400 421   479 484 498   507 557 558   599 622 659   694 721 768   782 802 808   817 827 834   848 867 868   910 931 936   942 946 954   965 
QC (E)Remaining straights183976034 076   084 185 266   306 310 417   419 447 474   519 581 605   615 710 780   887 
SC (E)Remaining straights223599019 036   064 066 140   208 260 272   296 337 345   347 373 396   518 670 738   839 886 910   948 975 
SC (M)Remaining straights562668002 003   032 056 112   122 146 149   231 255 258   283 291 294   297 298 303   313 364 380   396 399 402   410 437 456   480 488 492   496 552 553   572 616 660   670 678 780   843 847 852   853 867 878   888 896 922   926 929 939   945 946 970   981 983 987 
Taiwan (E)Remaining straights2301538000 008   009 013 020   030 031 037   041 051 054   057 060 062   064 072 073   075 081 085   109 112 113   114 115 122   127 131 134   135 144 148   149 151 152   159 163 171   175 176 177   180 181 186   187 200 203   204 207 213   223 226 227   238 243 249   251 253 262   271 276 278   281 283 288   291 292 293   295 299 308   309 314 322   323 324 331   340 343 349   355 360 361   363 371 374   375 376 385   388 393 400   405 406 412   420 422 428   435 443 447   448 450 452   454 463 466   472 473 475   489 490 491   493 500 504   505 507 511   515 523 524   529 531 536   538 544 545   547 567 575   579 582 586   588 596 599   601 612 626   627 628 636   641 647 650   653 664 671   672 674 679   681 684 686   689 696 703   708 709 713   716 717 720   728 732 739   742 747 753   754 755 758   761 762 763   767 777 778   780 785 790   798 801 814   820 823 831   842 849 851   857 862 865   872 876 878   879 881 890   892 905 908   911 921 924   927 928 931   939 940 952   954 956 960   961 964 969   970 971 972   973 976 983   987 988 989   990 993 996 
TN (E)Remaining straights452874006 022   024 025 044   060 111 148   163 248 261   262 277 281   311 345 350   404 407 416   460 485 508   509 528 561   570 574 613   616 623 640   666 741 747   750 761 832   861 901 902   909 921 973   993 
TN (M)Remaining straights1431926001 002   003 011 016   026 029 032   035 039 040   054 057 061   064 074 076   091 095 108   110 112 115   120 121 131   134 143 144   146 154 158   170 179 181   188 199 205   209 227 240   241 248 260   263 285 288   294 299 301   305 306 307   311 312 316   324 325 327   337 341 343   346 357 363   371 373 380   435 452 457   467 475 477   480 489 499   500 505 515   525 537 544   551 552 556   567 570 580   582 585 599   607 612 621   624 625 633   642 648 666   667 669 671   674 675 683   697 698 702   704 711 721   725 731 735   766 774 787   792 800 818   829 832 847   849 855 864   868 881 882   883 888 890   896 899 900   951 971 974   983 984 991 
Tri State (E)Remaining straights94866078 130   370 396 553   691 742 901   952 
Tri State (M)Remaining straights433118019 041   057 097 100   133 160 166   179 239 275   299 386 396   408 422 439   463 471 475   478 480 530   546 552 567   573 588 638   668 682 692   700 715 730   732 791 818   835 840 875   910 997 
TX (E)All straights hit after 5474 draws05474 
TX (M)Remaining straights533042014 029   054 081 111   128 155 167   245 266 286   306 318 326   346 356 360   362 371 379   470 488 522   529 537 551   561 567 570   573 603 625   649 663 676   711 719 722   726 731 746   771 794 832   879 883 903   919 925 951   953 958 965 
VA (E)All straights hit after 6358 draws06358 
VA (M)Remaining straights84494298 443   601 628 669   877 891 972 
WA (E)Remaining straights34879036 849 939 
WC (E)Remaining straights183983038 063   145 174 226   267 376 416   420 499 527   528 548 720   743 745 770   854 
WI (E)Remaining straights84936086 193   271 535 602   710 828 902 
WV (E)Remaining straights134235005 130   346 358 423   469 474 530   731 903 937   982 997 

In fact, when one would sort this list, you'll find the remaining numbers and total draws are pretty much 'in line', meaning one could do a sort on total draws and view the list, and then do  a sort on remaining numbers and view the list and then notice the sortorder stays pretty much the same.

See the list below, sorted on remaining numbers

StateNameRemainingDrawsCounted
TX (E)05474
NJ (E)05877
GA (E)06557
VA (E)06358
MI (E)05821
IL (E)25461
MI (M)35189
WA (E)34879
MD (E)34885
DE (E)54773
LA (E)54904
IN (E)64931
OH (E)64468
MN (E)64884
KY (E)64933
PA (E)84937
NY (E)84925
KS (E)84881
VA (M)84494
CA (E)84937
WI (E)84936
Tri State (E)94866
MD (M)104631
MO (E)104937
IL (M)104788
CT (E)114934
GA (M)114528
FL (E)114937
OH (M)124122
WV (E)134235
AZ (E)164221
WC (E)183983
QC (E)183976
Ontario (E)183995
NY (M)193684
CT (M)203998
SC (E)223599
KY (M)244008
NJ (M)243703
ID (E)293655
CA (M)363357
NM (E)373562
DC (M)383298
Tri State (M)433118
DC (E)453298
IN (M)453257
TN (E)452874
PA (M)453258
TX (M)533042
SC (M)562668
DE (M)602822
MO (M)632727
Belgium (E)702792
OK (E)1062255
NE (E)1192077
NC (E)1411923
TN (M)1431926
Taiwan (E)2301538
FL (M)2561334
NC (M)2691232
AR (E)464760
ID (M)502695
AR (M)528652

and the following list, sorted on Drawscounted

StateNameRemainingDrawsCounted
GA (E)06557
VA (E)06358
NJ (E)05877
MI (E)05821
TX (E)05474
IL (E)25461
MI (M)35189
CA (E)84937
FL (E)114937
MO (E)104937
PA (E)84937
WI (E)84936
CT (E)114934
KY (E)64933
IN (E)64931
NY (E)84925
LA (E)54904
MD (E)34885
MN (E)64884
KS (E)84881
WA (E)34879
Tri State (E)94866
IL (M)104788
DE (E)54773
MD (M)104631
GA (M)114528
VA (M)84494
OH (E)64468
WV (E)134235
AZ (E)164221
OH (M)124122
KY (M)244008
CT (M)203998
Ontario (E)183995
WC (E)183983
QC (E)183976
NJ (M)243703
NY (M)193684
ID (E)293655
SC (E)223599
NM (E)373562
CA (M)363357
DC (M)383298
DC (E)453298
PA (M)453258
IN (M)453257
Tri State (M)433118
TX (M)533042
TN (E)452874
DE (M)602822
Belgium (E)702792
MO (M)632727
SC (M)562668
OK (E)1062255
NE (E)1192077
TN (M)1431926
NC (E)1411923
Taiwan (E)2301538
FL (M)2561334
NC (M)2691232
AR (E)464760
ID (M)502695
AR (M)528652

 

Oh yes, just in case crow doubts again, this is real live data... stuff that other people would call facts Big Grin

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    Let me re-phrase in case you didnt understand the first time:

    one single straight played combination can go past 1000 draws before it hits ......!!!!!!

    one single straight played combination can actually go past 3000 draws as shown from the above list i posted for north carolina.

    -----------> one single straight played combination<---------------.....!!!!!

    Plus your odds are only 1/1000 if you play---> ((((1000 combinations)))))<--- not if you play only one !!!!

    Dayyyum son im startin to believe you work for the state lotteries.

    You really mean this?

    So if a person decides to play 1 number in a pick3 game, his or her odds of winning are not 1 in a thousand??????

    So what you say is: when State A decides to start a pick3 game, the first day the odds are 1 in thousand, but after, let's just pull a number out of a head, after 2480 draws, the odds have changed??? Eek Eek Eek

    Perhaps you might wanna stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking...

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      You really mean this?

      So if a person decides to play 1 number in a pick3 game, his or her odds of winning are not 1 in a thousand??????

      So what you say is: when State A decides to start a pick3 game, the first day the odds are 1 in thousand, but after, let's just pull a number out of a head, after 2480 draws, the odds have changed??? Eek Eek Eek

      Perhaps you might wanna stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking...

      look at the list i posted where all those straight played combinations went past 3000 draws..

      why keep on denying the never drawn list  ?

      its obvious you misundestand what im saying

      yes if a person decides to play ONLY ONE STRAIGHT PLAYED COMBINATION it can go past 1000 draws....!!!!

      this means your odds of winning are not 1 out of 1000 draws for a (straight played combination)....it can go waaaaaaaaaaay past 1000 draws.....this is where there are mathematical rules called degrees of certainty for percentage values come into play,

      check out the never drawn list the proof is right there.....and yes your odds are 1/1000 if you play 1000 combinations but who would want to do that ?

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        look at the list i posted where all those straight played combinations went past 3000 draws..

        why keep on denying the never drawn list  ?

        its obvious you misundestand what im saying

        yes if a person decides to play ONLY ONE STRAIGHT PLAYED COMBINATION it can go past 1000 draws....!!!!

        this means your odds of winning are not 1 out of 1000 draws for a (straight played combination)....it can go waaaaaaaaaaay past 1000 draws.....this is where there are mathematical rules called degrees of certainty for percentage values come into play,

        check out the never drawn list the proof is right there.....and yes your odds are 1/1000 if you play 1000 combinations but who would want to do that ?

        You really gotta share a link with everyone here so we can all learn your awesome mathematics, really man, this is great stuff!!

        Am i denying a never drawn list? I just posted one, perhaps you missed it again, just like all those other facts i have posted.

        You are mixing up some things here. Ofcourse a number can go past 1000 draws before showing up, i showed that in that little list i posted half an hour ago which has info on all the states. And i know, it is a little list, one might have trouble finding it, i admit. lol
        As you might see in that list, if you can find it, when  all straights have come in, in a range between approx. 5500 draws and 6500 draws. And this is for all those states out there, can you imagine that? Some states in there have 4 pre-draws, others have 15 pre-draws, yet those stats stay the same. You gotta help me out here man, we really need to find where the error is in my calculations, because that can't be right, can it now? You said the predraws are affecting everything, so those numbers must be wrong when there is a difference in how many pre-draws one state has and how many pre-draws another state has.

         

        So, because a number can go beyond 1000 draws before hitting, the odds change? Correct?

        You know, there are formula's to calculate odds, and as far i can tell, the odds in a pick3 game are not that difficult to calculate, but then again, that's just me.

        I would give my life to get my hands on that formula!! So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?

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          You really gotta share a link with everyone here so we can all learn your awesome mathematics, really man, this is great stuff!!

          Am i denying a never drawn list? I just posted one, perhaps you missed it again, just like all those other facts i have posted.

          You are mixing up some things here. Ofcourse a number can go past 1000 draws before showing up, i showed that in that little list i posted half an hour ago which has info on all the states. And i know, it is a little list, one might have trouble finding it, i admit. lol
          As you might see in that list, if you can find it, when  all straights have come in, in a range between approx. 5500 draws and 6500 draws. And this is for all those states out there, can you imagine that? Some states in there have 4 pre-draws, others have 15 pre-draws, yet those stats stay the same. You gotta help me out here man, we really need to find where the error is in my calculations, because that can't be right, can it now? You said the predraws are affecting everything, so those numbers must be wrong when there is a difference in how many pre-draws one state has and how many pre-draws another state has.

           

          So, because a number can go beyond 1000 draws before hitting, the odds change? Correct?

          You know, there are formula's to calculate odds, and as far i can tell, the odds in a pick3 game are not that difficult to calculate, but then again, that's just me.

          I would give my life to get my hands on that formula!! So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?

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            OK crow,  quit playing around,  I'm trying to get you outta this one.....................

              Sweet birdboarding!!!!!!!!!!  Party

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              It seems you forgot to answer, again...

              So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?
              (Surely, such an easy question should be totally not difficult for a person of your ability to answer... or is it too difficult a question?)

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                 Crow, do you combine Midday and Evening draws? Please explain why or why not. Perhaps that will help explain your reasoning.

                This is an interesting question, that Ironcheese addressed at you Crow.
                Again an easy question, still, there is no answer...

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                  Crow you are the funniest Bat I know LOL

                  What you're stating can not be proved...

                  How do you prove that Pre draws corrupt people's strategies? Losing Tickets?

                  If so then you win ..because I'm pretty sure you have alot of them.

                   

                  We had a run in before on the CT thread and you kept

                  insisting on this "Bell Curve" drama. You put up 2 pairs daily

                  and played the bases and called that your system. Whooptie Doo!!BS

                  Then you tried to critisize what you THOUGHT was my method and I proved

                  you wrong with like 4 straight hits in one week using like 3 to 6 combos only.

                  Then I never saw you back on the CT thread again.

                   

                  Do you even like the lottery games?

                  Because you constantly bash the lotto executives 

                   

                  Before I leave this thread alone...I'll tell you what I told you last yr...

                  Instead of constantly critisizing others , because your theories & systems are failures ...

                  Spend some more time with some of the bigger heads on here...fine tune your skills and make some Money guy!!!Thumbs Down 

                  The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!! Wink

                   I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.


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                    Crow you are the funniest Bat I know LOL

                    What you're stating can not be proved...

                    How do you prove that Pre draws corrupt people's strategies? Losing Tickets?

                    If so then you win ..because I'm pretty sure you have alot of them.

                     

                    We had a run in before on the CT thread and you kept

                    insisting on this "Bell Curve" drama. You put up 2 pairs daily

                    and played the bases and called that your system. Whooptie Doo!!BS

                    Then you tried to critisize what you THOUGHT was my method and I proved

                    you wrong with like 4 straight hits in one week using like 3 to 6 combos only.

                    Then I never saw you back on the CT thread again.

                     

                    Do you even like the lottery games?

                    Because you constantly bash the lotto executives 

                     

                    Before I leave this thread alone...I'll tell you what I told you last yr...

                    Instead of constantly critisizing others , because your theories & systems are failures ...

                    Spend some more time with some of the bigger heads on here...fine tune your skills and make some Money guy!!!Thumbs Down 

                    So does this mean that youre winning tons of money with rickey's system ? If you answer yes then ill forever think youre a liar.

                    Huh, answer that you drive by troll ?..... you cant because youre lying just like all others who brag about winning money on lotterypost from systems youve been hoodwinked into buying off the internet.

                    When if ever have i put that much confidence the the bell curve approach ?

                    I know one thing and that is youve lost your azzz playing these systems that you yourself are bragging about in the above post and the only thing different about you and i is that you lack the honesty to admit it .

                    The main reason i post in many different forums is to test all the many different systems out there and rickey's as well as many other posters do....dont think i havent tested yours either drama queen.

                    Its obvious you lack the comprehension skills needed to address what this thread is about hence your idiotic reply....its ok though cause ill just look over it and consider the source....... right back at ya homie girl---->.Thumbs Down


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                      It seems you forgot to answer, again...

                      So what are the odds exactly for 1 number in a pick3 game? How does one calculate them?
                      (Surely, such an easy question should be totally not difficult for a person of your ability to answer... or is it too difficult a question?)

                      I put that graph up so you'd shut up when proof was offered up however youre still here....anyone with any credibility/dignity would have already bowed out an left.

                      Do you want a 50% chance of winning while playing a single straight played combination ?

                      Then it is 692 draws.......this also means that the higher percentage value you want the more draws have to take place

                      You know why youre a good conn man, rickey ?

                      Because you actually have the ability to convince people of the worthless trash you sell and make money off of it .....just like the pet rock salesman

                      Now continue to lie and say the reference at the bottom of the page you constantly post isnt free advertizing and you try to usurp that by buying a platinum subscription in hopes that todd wont raise hellll.

                      Like ive said many times before youve gotten way toooo much free advertizing so get the helll outta my thread cause im growing tired of your tricks and games

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                        So does this mean that youre winning tons of money with rickey's system ? If you answer yes then ill forever think youre a liar.

                        Huh, answer that you drive by troll ?..... you cant because youre lying just like all others who brag about winning money on lotterypost from systems youve been hoodwinked into buying off the internet.

                        When if ever have i put that much confidence the the bell curve approach ?

                        I know one thing and that is youve lost your azzz playing these systems that you yourself are bragging about in the above post and the only thing different about you and i is that you lack the honesty to admit it .

                        The main reason i post in many different forums is to test all the many different systems out there and rickey's as well as many other posters do....dont think i havent tested yours either drama queen.

                        Its obvious you lack the comprehension skills needed to address what this thread is about hence your idiotic reply....its ok though cause ill just look over it and consider the source....... right back at ya homie girl---->.Thumbs Down

                        ...to address what this thread is about...

                        This thread seems to be about you being unable to answer to questions.

                        Furthermore it seems to be about mathematics you are using that are unknown to anyone else on this planet.
                        So i am very, very & very interested in such mathematics, and i don't doubt lots of others would like to learn mathematics that are not from this universe.

                        To be honest, any time now i truly expect a post from you in which you write something like "join us, join the darkside" No Pity!

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                          I put that graph up so you'd shut up when proof was offered up however youre still here....anyone with any credibility/dignity would have already bowed out an left.

                          Do you want a 50% chance of winning while playing a single straight played combination ?

                          Then it is 692 draws.......this also means that the higher percentage value you want the more draws have to take place

                          You know why youre a good conn man, rickey ?

                          Because you actually have the ability to convince people of the worthless trash you sell and make money off of it .....just like the pet rock salesman

                          Now continue to lie and say the reference at the bottom of the page you constantly post isnt free advertizing and you try to usurp that by buying a platinum subscription in hopes that todd wont raise hellll.

                          Like ive said many times before youve gotten way toooo much free advertizing so get the helll outta my thread cause im growing tired of your tricks and games

                          It is truly impressive mathematics you are showing here. And your "proof" is so well build with facts & figures, it is almost unbelievable for any mortal.

                          So the odds in a pick3 game, playing 1 single number, out of 1000, is... tada... 692 draws..., oh no, wait, that will only give you a 50% chance, so the odds are really 1 to 1384 in game where there are 1000 possible outcomes. That is one strange "odd" lol.
                          And it doesn't end there, so it seems. This is only true when less drawhistory is present than...? , well, than more drawhistory LOL man, you're funny.

                          It's like saying, "i was driving the highway, and my average speed was 4 gallons"

                          My tricks? You mean the data from real live draws?
                          I can imagine that is upsetting you, it are statistics that are calculated using mathematics used all over this planet.

                          It is pretty much time you call it a day on calling people trolls, liars, conn men, but mostly trolls.

                          In fact, what is it with you and that concept, "trolls" ? Everyone who does not agree with you, well, that is a troll...

                          so get the helll outta my thread

                          Your thread? I wasn't aware you owned LotteryPost... Eek

                          Just keep to the facts & numbers, just stop with calling people names, it will make room for discussion & debate, a concept you have never heard of so it seems...

                          lasas3

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                            garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                            Posted: January 13, 2012, 2:36 pm - IP Logged

                            Nope, no graph coming through. IE shows a blank picture box with the properties gambling-gif.

                            Must not be important enough to be on the internet. LOL

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                              Posted: January 13, 2012, 3:17 pm - IP Logged

                              I put that graph up so you'd shut up when proof was offered up however youre still here....anyone with any credibility/dignity would have already bowed out an left.

                              Do you want a 50% chance of winning while playing a single straight played combination ?

                              Then it is 692 draws.......this also means that the higher percentage value you want the more draws have to take place

                              You know why youre a good conn man, rickey ?

                              Because you actually have the ability to convince people of the worthless trash you sell and make money off of it .....just like the pet rock salesman

                              Now continue to lie and say the reference at the bottom of the page you constantly post isnt free advertizing and you try to usurp that by buying a platinum subscription in hopes that todd wont raise hellll.

                              Like ive said many times before youve gotten way toooo much free advertizing so get the helll outta my thread cause im growing tired of your tricks and games

                              692 & 50%? Now I recognize this from IonSaliu's work from years ago. Idea

                              That's where I first saw it. Here's the way it works (as I grasp it), for folks who've never seen it ...

                              1) The game has 1000 combos and you play one of them (straight), per round.

                              2) That makes 1 way to win & 999 ways to lose. 999 ways to lose = 999/1000 = 0.999, which means your odds of winning the bet is 1/1000 or 0.001

                              3) Play 2 rounds, your chances of losing both rounds is 0.999 * 0.999 [a.k.a. 0.999 ^ 2], which is ~0.998, which means your chances of winning one or both bets is ~0.002

                              4) Doing this over and over, the odds of you having won [not to be confused with winning a particular round] 1 or more bets gradually increases.

                              5) Eventually, there is a number of rounds X, such that 0.999 ^ X gives you a 50% chance of having won something within those X number of rounds. That covers winning 1 out of X rounds all the way up to winning all X out of X rounds.

                              You might expect this to be 500, since there are 1000 combinations, but that's not the case.

                              The number that fits this is 692. 0.999 ^ 692 = ~0.500

                              If the thread had just been called Fundamental Formula of Gambling, the old heads would've immediately known what was being talked about and we could have saved all these pages. LOL

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