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Investigators find Tipton's software code to rig computerized lottery drawings

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wizeguy's avatar - animaniacs04

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Posted: April 7, 2016, 6:35 pm - IP Logged

This article said Tommy was Eddie's younger brother. Yesterday's article said Tommy was the older brother.

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    Posted: April 7, 2016, 6:56 pm - IP Logged

    This article said Tommy was Eddie's younger brother. Yesterday's article said Tommy was the older brother.

    Wow, great eye!  I have fixed yesterday's article.  The ages were reversed.

     

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      Posted: April 7, 2016, 7:19 pm - IP Logged

      Wow, great eye!  I have fixed yesterday's article.  The ages were reversed.

      The text in paragraph four of yesterday's article still needs updating if the ages were reversed. Younger should read older brother Eddie.

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        Posted: April 7, 2016, 8:25 pm - IP Logged
        Eddie Tipton's case is still circumstantial. What can show is the the one and only 
        random generation used in his case. Only he had access to this generator &
        Software. No, one else ever had access to this generator & software. 
        As far as Forensic evidence . How many other peoples DNA, finger prints was on the
        generator & software? Have they all been account for. When did they have access to
        these thing?  There is still room for reasonable doubt. Just my opinion.

        Someone can claim he wasn't the only one. Someone can even claim some of the evidence is circumstantial. No one should be still saying that there's reasonable doubt. Because there isn't. You can have doubts but that doesn't make them reasonable. If you look at the odds of winning any of these prizes, how many of his relatives and friends claimed those winnings, which were all won only on certain days, at some point logic has to kick in and say, okay, it is unreasonable to assume he's innocent. 

        You can make any assertion you want to, except that he's innocent, because he isn't. 

        I have no idea if he created the program. I have no idea if he was the one who installed the program. He may not have. But it doesn't matter, because he was definitely, 100% involved with the scam. That's what puts him behind bars.

        If he didn't create or install the program then he gets brownie points for not being a snitch. But that's all he gets because he was in on it and that makes him a thief and a crook. That's not my opinion, that's fact.

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          Posted: April 7, 2016, 10:00 pm - IP Logged

          Tipton knew that it was  game over when he read " Investigators were able to re create the draws and produce the very same numbers from the program "

          ...The Smoking gun moment.

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            Posted: April 7, 2016, 10:26 pm - IP Logged

            This code was in play for 6 years, 2005 to 2011!? And those  supposedly auditing the system didn't catch it?  Mindblowing incompetence!

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              Posted: April 7, 2016, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

              So, are they going to destroy the code, or is someone else going to tweak it and make it better for their own gain? 

              On the other hand, if it could be used to to make sure certain numbers DO show up, why couldn't it be used to make sure certain numbers DO NOT show up?

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                Posted: April 7, 2016, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

                As long as something is done by computer it can be hacked or manipulated and when it comes to money and large sums of it, it almost certainly will be. 

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                  Posted: April 8, 2016, 12:21 am - IP Logged

                  It's a kick in the lottery balls for everyone who plays not only that lottery but any lotto on the planet. One has to wonder how many cover ups go on for the good of people in other lotto's?

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                    Posted: April 8, 2016, 1:25 pm - IP Logged

                    So how do we know what games are using actual ball draws vs computer?

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                      Posted: April 8, 2016, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

                      "All six prizes linked to Tipton were drawn on either Nov. 23 or Dec. 29 between 2005 and 2011.

                      Investigators were able to recreate the draws and produce "the very same 'winning numbers' from the program that was supposed to produce random numbers," Smith wrote"

                      Sounds like he never removed the subroutine that allowed him to win if the drawings results could be predicted on those two dates for six years.  I would have thought those extra lines of code would have showed up when outside sources did their security checks else the routine was part of the RNG.  I remember when Tennessee first used its RNG for pick3/4 games it wouldn't pick doubles or triples because of a subroutines in the program.

                      "All six prizes linked to Tipton were drawn on either Nov. 23 or Dec. 29 between 2005 and 2011.

                      Investigators were able to recreate the draws and produce "the very same 'winning numbers' from the program that was supposed to produce random numbers," Smith wrote"

                      Once in a while I've noticed some winning combinations have the dates included like "04 08 16" and wonder if some RNGs have code planted in them to do that.  If they did and it only happened intentionally two or three times a year it might go on for years and never get noticed giving the players who know about it a big advantage.

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                        Posted: April 8, 2016, 1:40 pm - IP Logged

                        So how do we know what games are using actual ball draws vs computer?

                        You can watch the live drawings or check LP report card.

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                          Posted: April 8, 2016, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

                          I have a feeling the RNG software was only thoroughly checked prior to installation or upon any updates. After that auditors would have relied on statistical reporting to check if the lottery results were random. It would not be difficult to mask 2 determinate combinations as "random" in the larger population of drawings, especially if he used an algorithm. The "conditions" would have probably included recently past drawn numbers, so as not to trigger significance tests.

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                            Posted: April 9, 2016, 5:43 am - IP Logged

                            So what happens to Larry Dawson's lawsuit?

                            If I was on a jury for this (which I am not sure it is a jury trial?) I would award him 1/2 of the amount as this is PROOF that it was rigged but again it is unknown if someone else would have hit. 

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                              Posted: April 9, 2016, 11:41 am - IP Logged

                              So what happens to Larry Dawson's lawsuit?

                              If I was on a jury for this (which I am not sure it is a jury trial?) I would award him 1/2 of the amount as this is PROOF that it was rigged but again it is unknown if someone else would have hit. 

                              Why should he get any more than he won? He played to win the estimated jackpot posted for the drawing he won.  If he didn't like the jackpot amount he shouldn't had brought any tickets.

                              Now had he won less than the estimated jackpot because of Tipton's cheating,then he might have a case.

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